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Old 05-11-2010  
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Default Antihistamines - My Breakthrough

Iíve been floating around this and other forumís for some time and never contributed as I hadnít felt I had anything to offer other than going through my own personal tale of blushing woe (I wonít bore you with that). Iíve tried most drugs and various lotions and potions over the last 11 years but never found anything that worked in the slightest for blushing, until nowÖ

Anyway the other day whilst helping a friend of a friend tidy a flat which is due to be put up for sale, I found a bottle of brand name antihistamines on a table, and impulsively decided to help myself to 4 capsules. At the time I just thought why not, what harm can it do? I planned to try them out later on that day as myself and my missus were going to her sisters house which is notoriously warm and I knew it would be the usual full blown blush fest ( I donít actually mind doing it there too much as they all just carry on as if nothing ever happened, but it still gets you down a bit doesnít it!).

So before we drove out there I necked all 4, and only noticed a change once we reached their house (1 hour drive) and got out of the car. I was shattered, and my legs werenít working properly, but I didnít say anything and just claimed to be really tired after all the cleaning. When I got inside I couldnít believe how easy I found it to speak freely with everyone without any hint of a hot face or a blushy feeling! I was super drowsy and couldíve easily fallen asleep anywhere in there but really didnít care!

The drowsiness gradually reduced and as usual we all got smashed (I drank in the region of a bottle of vodka), and eventually after 5-6 hours I began to blush again, twice it happened and I assumed the effects of the antihistamines had worn off. It coincided with the drowsiness disappearing so this was completely logical to me. The other benefit was that I did not get a hangover the next day in the slightest, which is not normal for me at all. Coincidence? I donít think so.

Iíve since done a little research on antihistamines and Iím still trying to find out what brand name it was I took. Iím pretty sure they were bought at Tesco by this person at the flat, and I know the drug was called (something) hydrochloride. There are various types of these antihistamines available to buy over the counter, but I will clarify this soon hopefully.

There is a topic on page 5 of this forum index called ĎQuestions about antihistaminesí in which Ďtheoneandonlyí appears to have had similar experiences. I also notice he has tried a non drowsy type of antihistamine which worked Clarityn (brand name) Loratadine (drug) as did one of the sedating types, Phenergan Ė promethazine hydrochloride, so Iím going to try these next.

The dosage is the one big issue but Iím planning on testing this out with reasonably high doses (not 4 capsules!), and little doses to do my own test on what works, and for how long. If the non drowsy option can stop me blushing for a certain period of hours then this will no doubt make my life much easier, stress free and enjoyable. I know itís not a cure, but for me, itís a potential breakthrough.

I hope this can work for others and would love to hear any similar stories/experiences. Iíll try and keep you all updated on my progress.

P.S. I donít usually impulsively help myself to bottles of over the counter drugs left lying around on tables! Or drink a whole bottle of vodka to myself, just special occasions!
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Sorry - the reference to a similar story by 'the oneandonly' is actually on page 5 of the ESFB blushing forum
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First of all, we have to be clear on one thing. Are you suffering from flushing or blushing? Those are two very different things in my opinion. As a blusher, there are hardly anything that helps execept anxiety meds, because everyone was born to blush while flushing actually is a medical condition.

Also, I would say it might be the drowsiness more than the antihistamine itself that prevented you from flushing/blushing because if you feel almost drunk or relaxed, you care less and you blush less. Simple as that.

With that said, I don't think you strumbled into a big secret. I have tried Kestine (antihistamine) myself and it did nothing to my blushing. I don't know about flushing though. I cannot flush. I wasn't born with that.
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Old 05-12-2010  
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I am a blusher, never flushed once in my entire life. My face goes red for a short period of time in certain situations, almost always involving speaking with people, people asking me a question, being put on the spot, etc. Apologies if I didn't make this clear in my post. I'm a blusher, of that there is no doubt.

I've read about people trying Kestine, but this is only one type of antihistamine among many different drugs. And I see what you're saying about the drowsiness, but it doesn't ring true for me. When I'm drunk at a party I still blush, no matter how relaxed or confident I feel. If I'm out in bars drinking however I'm usually fine. On this occasion I was physically unable to blush for 5-6 hours. You couldn't shut me up, which is not like me usually because of fear of blushing.

Maybe the dosage I took made all the difference, or maybe the type of antihistamine I took was the type that works for me. How much Kestine did you take and did you ever up the dosage? It appears that this maybe a stop-gap measure to prevent me blushing for a period of time, which means I could use it before work, before social gatherings, whenever I feel I need it.

I still intend to test some non-drowsy antihistamines, and I know this one worked for my blushing. And after reading the post on the other forum, it looks like I'm not the only one. I too cannot flush by the way.
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I hear you, but I honestly don't think you can "cure" blushing with medicines because everyone is prone to blush. It is just how we are built. You want a drug that make you pale as a ghost and that will provent blood from rushing? I don't think it will happen.

Your blushing is triggered by stress, in social situations. I think the antihistamines made you feel calm in a way that made you believe it was a drug that's working. Belief is a strong thing. Anatomically I just think it's strange how an antihistamine can make you not blush.

Maybe I'm wrong. I sure hope I am. Keep trying it, maybe you HAVE found something. I think everyone is happy that people at least try their way forward.
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Old 05-13-2010  
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SoldierOn, in this thread a regimen of 1000mg of L-methionine and 1000mg of calcium was said to reduce histamine levels in the body and help people with blushing. I have heard other people say histamine might play a role in blushing but I have not come across a cure that works for everyone. If you're interested, Paxil has helped me the most with my blushing. Hope you find something that helps.
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Old 05-14-2010  
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If histamine was really the problem, then antihistamines would surely be a miracle drug, wouldn't you think? Is there really something wrong with "normal" blushers (I am not talking about flushers) who just happen to blush more because they developed a phobia for it?

I would say you can't cure blushing physically only mentally because it is a perfectly normal body function.
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If histamine was really the problem, then antihistamines would surely be a miracle drug, wouldn't you think?
I'm not a doctor, but I would think it depends on how the anti-histamine acts in the body. It's conceivable that an anti-histamine could stop one kind of reaction (e.g., allergies) but not another kind of reaction (e.g., blushing). The other thread I linked to tried to lower the amount of histamine in the body so that all reactions involving histamine would have less histamine to work with. I have read of other blushers having partial or total success using anti-histamines or trying to lower the amount of histamine in the body. Unfortunately there does not seem to be a cure for all blushers. Maybe anti-histamines are a cure for one blusher but not for another.

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Is there really something wrong with "normal" blushers (I am not talking about flushers) who just happen to blush more because they developed a phobia for it?
I don't think anyone really understands exactly why some of us blush more than others.

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I would say you can't cure blushing physically only mentally because it is a perfectly normal body function.
But some people have stopped it through medicine or surgery. I've come across many blushers who believe their social phobia was caused by their blushing, not the other way around. I'm one of them. When Paxil made it so I literally never blushed my anxiety level plummeted.
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Old 05-15-2010  
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I have talked to Teleranta regarding EST or whatever the operation is called and he told me the surgery mainly helps for flushing, not so effective for blushing. Goes to show that blushing is a normal reaction. I mean, are you going to walk around all your life all pale in the head and never get read, not even when bending over. It's never going to happen. If you stop being red in the face, you are probably dead.

Personally I think some of us blush more than others because we have a stronger stress reaction. Its in the sympathetic nervous system. And because of it we develope a phobia and it becomes much worse.

So what we need to cure is the acute stress reaction, not the blushing itself.

But keep trying with the antihistamines. Who knows, maybe it works.
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Stuckwithme you are wrong here, and if you don't even know the name of ETS you shouldn't be so quick to jump to conclusions.

There is proof that blushing have been "cured" in other ways than mentally - that is by drugs and surgery (some people wont call it "cure" due to side effects). Take myself for example - I will blush sitting by myself at home, if my computer get stuck and I lose my savings in a document. That is not because of mental reasons, but of physical ones.

SoldierOne I look forward to hear about your eventual progress and also about the name of this anti-histamine you helped yourself to. As TubalCain so correctly said, our bodies are different, and what is not relief for one blusher, might be reflief for another.
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