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MikeyC

Well-known member
You already know how I feel about you, mate, so no use writing it again. Hopefully you got some sleep.
 

1BlackSheep

Well-known member
Always a pleasure to see you here, even if it's under less-than-ideal circumstances. I think we can all relate to how you're feeling - at least I can! How's the job going, if you don't mind me asking?
 

KiaKaha

Banned
Just been on a date. Third date - she is not ready to pursue anything further, just wants to be friends. I am not expecting an obligation - but it still hurts. Especially when you hear it over and over again.

Will keep a track of rejection in this thread.
 

ImNotMyIllness

Well-known member
Ouch! That really sucks. But what's important is that you're going out there and dating. That is the only way to find the right woman for you. And, the right woman will not say, "let's just be friends".
 

KiaKaha

Banned
Yeah. Thanks. You have no idea....seriously.... how many times I have heard it... Over and over again..

I always get told that I am a so likeable, attractive and a decent sort - but they never want to go any further. The first maybe 2 dates they are flirtatious and interested but the third or fourth one is the 'friend zone' date.

I feel unhappy. I need some time to recover.
 

ImNotMyIllness

Well-known member
Hmmmm.....Well, I don't think we're going to be able to figure it out on this thread. But, I wonder if you're coming off to needy or something?...Or, perhaps not selecting the right women. (compatibility issues).
Good luck! I know it hurts! I've been postponing entering into the mine field myself.
 
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KiaKaha

Banned
I don't really know. It is frustrating because they seem to like me in the beginning and then they don't. I don't come on to strong - I am courteous and considerate while being good company - besides I always get told that I am a great guy and will make someone happy - but it's never the person I am with that that applies to. Every time..

ugh. I hate feeling like this.
 

ImNotMyIllness

Well-known member
Hummmm......Do you ever try to make a move? Try to kiss her? Do you do anything romantic? Maybe you're coming off as friend material. You're not doing anything to ignite any sparks so she thinks to herself that you're a great and supportive guy, but not for her.
You might have to be a little more bold.
 

KiaKaha

Banned
Of course - but I have to sense for permission. The last thing that I want to do is do something like that and get it wrong. I have to be absolutely sure that it is OK to make a move like that before I do - because if I do get it wrong it would be an absolute disaster. I hope that makes sense - there needs to be a cue in order for me to do so.

Perhaps you are right - maybe I do need to be bolder - I get friend zoned ALL THE TIME. Next time I am going to plant one right on her.
 

ImNotMyIllness

Well-known member
I understand having sense for permission. You can tell by her look. I know one trick, make her laugh! Ask interesting interesting questions about her (don't interrogate). Compliment her on something that she's wearing. (Women spend a huge amount of time stressing on what to wear).
 

KiaKaha

Banned
Thanks. I appreciate the kind advice. I come across well usually on dates. I know all the tricks - I just can't figure out what it is I do wrong, when it comes to moving it forward. I am just not keeper material it seems.
 

KiaKaha

Banned
Maybe I reveal too much about myself too soon. That could be it - there is a point... a threshold.... a decision that leads from being interested....to not acceptable in the long term.

And it is quite remarkable the contrast between the two - I can sense and detect the the change from dateable and interested to no longer being a potential mate. It comes on suddenly - all go one minute - then the next, no longer.... a decision is being made....so it MUST be something I am revealing about myself...

Definitely likeable and somewhat attractive just not enough....not enough... something.

Perhaps I can view my constant rejection as a social experiment instead. Perhaps it wont be so painful if I could somehow change my perspective.

I could give all the gory blow by blow details.... step by step. Maybe something will hit me.
 
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