DryDerm for plantar?

In my search to find something stronger than Drysol, I came across several interesting articles online by a Canadian doctor (BENOHANIAN) that discusses topical treatment with 15% aluminum chloride in salicylic acid (Hydrosal).

I have been using Drysol on my feet for almost a year and while it does help some, I think the concentration level needs to be higher. I've read about custom compounds up to 35% aluminum. One such method is outlined here (hyperhidrosis.ca/topical.htm).

Just today, I came across Dry Derm which is an aluminum chloride concentration in salicylic acid and is available in different strengths. I ordered the 35% and the 45% and am looking forward to giving it a try.

My current treatment for palmar hyperhidrosis is iontophresis every other day for 20 minutes and 1.5 mg of Robinul orally daily. This seems to hold pretty steady for the most part but I have had difficulty controlling my foot sweat. I have tried ionto on my feet twice, both times it made matters worse. I have also used 10% Formaldehyde in the past with varying success.

Has anyone tried DryDerm or familiar with it? I have been researching this stuff for a year or so and have never read about it which is odd because it seems like it may be a good option.

I also wanted to share that I recently ordered some Dehydral, but haven't tried it yet. I plan to if the DryDerm doesn't work. If anyone wants to share their experiences with Dehydral for feet as well that would be appreciated.

Antihydral is the stronger version of Dehydral. I've used it for my hands, didn't bother with the feet. It can really dry out your hands pretty bad rather than keeping them consistently dry.

I found that using Antihydral right before ionto treatment increases the overall effectiveness.

How about anhydrol forte? Has anyone tried them? Or can anyone suggest the strongest one? I want something much stronger. My Odaban is simply not doing well for my hands.

My country really really sucks when dealing with hyperhidrosis :sad:. Treatment options are very limited here. DryDerm, Antihydral, & Dehydral are not available here.

I believe anhydrol forte is the same as US Drysol...both have 20% aluminum. The DryDerm comes in higher concentrations which I hope will work better.

According to there website DryDerm comes in strengths of 10, 14 and 20% aluminum.

Maybe looking in the wrong place. Check out drypharmacist.com/different-strengths-for-different-severities.html which shows 10%-35% and drypharmacist.com/palmoplantar-hyperhidrosis---dryderm-pp.html which is 45%.

Some more info I have found...Here is a topical at 30% concentration that can be purchased through Amazon: ahc30-forte.com

Also, on sweathelp.org, they discuss that 30% or higher is typically needed for plantar:

"Typically aluminum chloride hexahydrate concentrations of 10% to 15% are recommended for excessive sweating of the underarms. For managing sweaty hands or sweaty feet, higher concentrations are needed - usually around 30%."

sweathelp.org/en/hyperhidrosis-treatments/antiperspirants/antiperspirant-basics.html

20% aluminum chloride is basically useless for my palmer HH. Applied the night before reduced my sweating 50%+ for maybe 2 hours. With 30% you may have a fighting chance.

wow, I guess I need more than 20% for my hands. Or maybe iontophoresis is better for hands. Thanks for the answer guys.

I got my shipment of DryDerm yesterday. I'll give it a shot and report back on its effectiveness. Also, found a pharmacy in the US that will compound Drysol up to 30% w/ a prescription. I am going to try the DryDerm first.

Ionto may be your best option.

I think I might take your advice Sprawling and give ionto another shot. The last two attempts were not successful. I ended up giving up after 8-9 sessions because the sweating got a lot worse. Works great for my hands though so I AM a believer.

I have a Fischer and wonder about scheduling. The Fischer instructions state to do 20 minute sessions every 2-3 days for at least 10 sessions. However, I have found other sites that recommend a schedule more staggered (e.g. days 1, 3, 5, etc.) See

rafischer.com/share/md1a-usage.pdf

versus

hyperhidrosisuk.org/_literature_128085/Iontophoresis_-_How_to_Get_Successful_Results_-BJDN_2012_by_J_Halford

I did try it once for a 15 minute session earlier this week with 1/2 robinul in one tray and switch trays mid way through. I swear it felt like my feet were dryer the next day but the following day I was sweating worse. What is your recommendation on scheduling? And could adding the Robinul have somewhat of an immediate effect because it is being target to that specific area?

8-9 sessions obviously is not enough for you. Sessions should be a minimum of 15 minutes per polarity. I'm not sure who writes the ionto guidelines, my personal opinion treatment should be every day for at least 2-3 weeks all depending on how you respond.

My average first time treatment was approximately 10 days. I've had ionto treatment stop working at different intervals during the past 9.5 years do to severe fibromyalgia. It literally took me months to get some results.

Adding robinul works for some, not others. I did a whole thread on various things that I added to my water during times when my treatment became spotty. I added antihydral, certain dri, Odaban amongst other things that helped to a certain degree. There was one time rain water worked miracles for me for a year, then stopped.

Currently, I do maintenance treatments once a week and for the most part my hands stay dry. I've had many treatment schedules over the years. Before Fibromyalgia hit my maintenance treatment was once every 9-11 days.

Keep experimenting and hope for the best.

OK, lots of good tips in there. My curiosity was that giving a break between treatments does something, but sounds like it may not do anything. I'll start over and stay at it.

Did you ever notice increased sweating during the initial phase? I cannot remember my hands doing that like my feet do.

I think I experienced a little of everything. Having treatment work, not work, increased sweat in the beginning, no increased sweating in the beginning etc. My conclusion is that there is no one answer as to what makes ionto work or how to solve its problems. What works today may not work tomorrow and visa versa. Water quality can effect treatment yet can also have little effect on treatment. For some people ionto will just not work.

I was ready to give up at one point when ionto stopped working about 50-75%. A year later it was working again. Illness, medication along with other variables play a larger role than people think.

I think I experienced a little of everything. Having treatment work, not work, increased sweat in the beginning, no increased sweating in the beginning etc. My conclusion is that there is no one answer as to what makes ionto work or how to solve its problems. What works today may not work tomorrow and visa versa. Water quality can effect treatment yet can also have little effect on treatment. For some people ionto will just not work.

I was ready to give up at one point when ionto stopped working about 50-75%. A year later it was working again. Illness, medication along with other variables play a larger role than people think.