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Old 11-14-2007
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Something that confuses me is that once i control one obsessive thought. another pops up. Last week it was the fear that I'd loose control and hurt someone. This week I feel out of reality, sort of feel like I don't exist..I know I do, but its like I keep questioning everything and I think a lot about human existance and the fact that human minds are un-tangible yet they are so poweful...we are just meat...this all confuses me and bothers my thoughts...i've been told these are symtoms of derealization...anyone know?
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Old 11-14-2007
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Hi, de-vin, I just posted something about obsessive thoughts. I too am being plagued by them recently. I was thinking about something related a few days ago, and it really bugged me, because the thing is--no one has the answers when we delve into the spiritual/existential realm. That's what bothered me about it. You can search and search for answers, you can try out every religion there is, but the human mind is fallible. There is so much that we DON'T know.
I think it's best for someone like me (and perhaps like you) to steer clear of these issues, even though they are quite fascinating. An obsessive mind won't let this drop, and once you REALIZE your mind has latched on to it, it seems scarier, and then you think about it more and more. There is absolutely nothing wrong about being a deep thinker, or someone spiritual. But there is a such thing as thinking too much.

I hope that helped a little, at least you can know you aren't alone!
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Old 11-15-2007
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I appreciate your reply. If its cool to ask, what are your Obsessive thoughts?
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Old 11-15-2007
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hi de-vin, i have thought about those things a lot myself.

sometimes the reality of my existance overwhelms me so much that i panic. i cry that my existance is so miniscule and will end so soon. when it's over it's over. i don't think people understand the true reality of it, the true feeling of reality. i think people have this emotional cushion or desensitization to it all. see, i know i exist, but i know it is on such a micro level.

sometimes i use it to my advantage. sometimes i tell myself when i am gone then none of these people matter, nothing else will exist, and that can sometimes make the panic of situations go away.
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Old 11-15-2007
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I'd rather not go into much detail, it isn't good to give other people ideas, you know! Right now I'm obsessing about how I can't believe this is happening to me again. And I can't get a hold of my therapist. GRRR!
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Old 11-15-2007
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Something that confuses me is that once i control one obsessive thought. another pops up. Last week it was the fear that I'd loose control and hurt someone. This week I feel out of reality, sort of feel like I don't exist..I know I do, but its like I keep questioning everything and I think a lot about human existance and the fact that human minds are un-tangible yet they are so poweful...we are just meat...this all confuses me and bothers my thoughts...i've been told these are symtoms of derealization...anyone know?
Ah, derealization.

I keep having it. For as long as I can remember. I don't know what to do about it. It's the only thing that I feel I have NO control over.

So what I can do for you: derealization is quite common. It might be helped by psychotherepy (I have no experience with this) in some cases. For other people the problem might lay in nutrition (I am currently struggling a (minor) eating disorder as well as the SP and derealization - right, ouch - and I've noticed that the more/healthier I eat, the less DP (DP for depersonalization, which is basically another expression for derealization) I experience).

If you wish to find out more about DP (which you might not wish, as what you defined as the problem is OBSESSING - well, you decide), you can google it, there's a lot of support/info sites. Ah, and there used to be an amazing vid about DP on youtube, you could search for that, too.

Love to you, De-vin and Dottie an Thequiettone, reading your posts feels like a blessing. I get what you are saying. Wish you to be strong and able to enjoy your reality (even when it seems distant).


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Old 11-15-2007
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I've had those too. They were much stronger when I wasn't on medication.
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Old 11-16-2007
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I've had those too. They were much stronger when I wasn't on medication.
What kind of meds do you take?
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Old 11-16-2007
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300mg Effexor XR - morning
7.5mg Zyprexa - night
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Old 11-21-2007
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I obsess about just about everything. However, I try not to think about, analyze, or get into any discussions about big stuff (religion, death, when does life begin...). I have enough on my plate trying to get out the door in the morning and have a day at work (while I worry about how my kids are, if they have a fever, if they're going to vomit, if my husband will get in a car accident, if I will get fired...).

Sometimes, my husband and I have "heated debates" in which we will purposely discuss some huge topic from different points of view. It can be entertaining, but we keep each other from getting too involved in the discussion. Sometimes I will not humor him with such a debate because I am just mentally too tired and preoccupied to tackle something unnecessary and impersonal.
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Old 12-06-2007
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Dev-in I completely understand what you are describing. I was recently diagnosed with OCD and have recently been experiencing extreme de-realization. It scares me because it makes me feel like I am losing my mind and that I will lose control and act on my intrusive thoughts. I think it is one of the worst symptons. But I noticed the more stressed I become the more the de-realization sets in. As described by others give meditation a try. It has allowed me to become more understanding of who I am and the intrusive thoughts don't scare me as much. The intrusive thoughts tend to make OCD patients believe "they are what they think" but by finding your true self the thoughts don't have as much weight and your stress level will go down and the de-realization will begin to fade. Goodluck with it.
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Old 12-10-2007
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I just discovered what derealization was- the term for it, at least. I experience it mainly when I'm in long car trips, or have a lot of time to just do nothing and think. It makes me feel all odd on the inside.
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Old 12-21-2007
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Sort of neat now that I have an official diagnosis - there's a whole forum of people talking about the same things that I thought were my own unique problems.

I get the "obsessive thoughts about death" - given that there's nothing I can do about it, it's certainly not pleasant. Haven't found a fix for it yet.
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