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Old 01-09-2008  
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I should probally put this on a new topic but, oh well. I feel the need to share this with you all.

After more studying I have bourn an understanding on suicide/death. According to the bible those that die have their memory and life force/spirit put at rest, no conscious no nothing just so, our bodies return to dust, god remembers us ect.

This knowledge works in harmony in how people feel about suicide, its a escape, for rest, for change, for relief. Almost as if our own bodies know of the hell described in the bible. Again, while we could think logically there will be nothing after death even our very feelings betray this by the warmth of relief.

But to cease to exist permanently? Think deeply over it, it is no rest, it is the opposite of life, nothing, absoloute nothing not even darkness, no promises. You will be forgotten for all time and removed from the pages of history, a void, no friends, no love no thought. A single grain of sand holds more life and hope than we would should we truly 'die'.

I have harboured suicidal thoughts many times and long for rest, but thinking apon the obvious element that even our body knows is not the way brings depair in a huge amount! The sheer horror when this is realised brings everything to light.

We may want to rest, yes, to be relieved of pain and misery yes. But never to cease, never to end, never to be as nothing, even our very essence knows this and it is something that takes only a short amount of deep thinking to realise. It's subtle.

Never never wish true death, for true, everlasting death is a barely imaginable horror that in reality is something not usually thought about...

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It is more of a aberration of life than anything, its something deep down even our own psyche refuses. Simply put any rest or solace found in the promise of oblivion is false, I used to think the same intill I catched apon the thought fully. I have discussed this with family and friends religious or not and they (after a short time of thought) agree.

It is seperate, death and true death. It is a natural abhorrence, a true horror to those who see it. Even if you have nothing to live for it is ingrained into our very bones to fear it. True death is a partly buried thought to all people.

We may want to die, but by far our very essence does not, for it is life. And its polar opposite and only enemy is death.

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I feel the same :(
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i know this feeling. every time i feel this way i just keep remindind myself:

'if you're going through hell, keep going.'

can't remember who said it, but i read it somewhere. also my li'l sis, the voice of reason she is, bless her, found a quote 'suicide is a permanent solution to a temorary problem,' which always makes me laugh in a cynnical way. if it wasn't for her i think i wouldhave lost my mind ages ago.
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If I'll have this uninteresting, nonexciting, lonely life all the time and If I dont/cant enjoy life, why keeping on livin? :( there's no meaning of life to me. this life is enjoyable for people without SP not for us
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According to the bible those that die have their memory and life force/spirit put at rest, no conscious no nothing just so, our bodies return to dust, god remembers us ect.
Why bring fiction into this?

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But to cease to exist permanently? Think deeply over it, it is no rest, it is the opposite of life, nothing, absoloute nothing not even darkness, no promises. You will be forgotten for all time and removed from the pages of history, a void, no friends, no love no thought. A single grain of sand holds more life and hope than we would should we truly 'die'.
Uh, are you trying to say that's a bad thing? It sounds pretty good to me.

I don't think I will ever commit suicide, partly because I don't want to hurt my family, and partly because I don't have easy access to a quick, painless means of doing it. But right now I'm sick of life, if you can call it that, and look forward to being dead (not the process of dying though!).
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Old 01-15-2008  
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i hope i can say what i think. people hurt a stroke victim so easilyi can't even go to the denist like normal people do.life has become so difficult.

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Old 01-15-2008  
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why ? i write i had a stroke on feb11, 2006 my family is suffering. i am a diabetic type2. and i suffer from fifty other ailments. i was told i would not make it,but here i am. i've had to learn everything all over from hospital to nursing home. when will it end?

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Doomed2DIE, there is only one thing that keeps me from killing myself, the absolute terror that this damnation will not end with death. That I will continue to exist and suffer beyound death. I search for a way to insure that when I kill myself I will die the true death, the death of the soul. I lust for oblivion to the exclusion of all other desires. Alas the only paths I've found that offer me this salvation come at too high a price, I will only harm myself not others, and certianly not the innocent.

You don't understand to escape, truely escape the pain and misery of life you must be forever beyound the reach of god and devil (they are one and the same) and you can only achieve that by being uncreated.
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