Laser Sweat Ablation - Whiteley Clinic - My Experience

teandtoast

teandtoast

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Hi All

I did start a long thread last week detailing my full experience with having Laser Sweat Ablation done at The Whiteley Clinic but it has been removed following the Whiteley Clinic contacting the forum and asking them to remove my thread or they would consider initiating legal action.

So I will rewrite a shortened factual thread of my experience.

Earlier this year I had Laser Sweat Ablation done at The Whiteley Clinic for a cost of around £3700 to help my Hyperhidrosis and Bromhidrosis.

As part of the procedure they shaved off my armpit hair.

The procedure did not work and my Hyperhidrosis and Bromhidrosis did not improve.

Following the procedure my armpit hair has barely grown back and now my armpits get red and sore from rubbing together.

The clinic did not offer any sort of refund or compensation.

If anybody has any questions feel free to pm me.
 
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teandtoast

teandtoast

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Well it's now been a year since I had Laser Sweat Ablation done and I just wanted to give an update.

I've given it a long enough now time to see if any improvement had occurred but sadly not, quite the opposite in fact, the last year I feel has probably been my worst in 10 years of having HH and Bromhidrosis.

My armpits are all the time now red and sore and uncomfortable and I feel my armpits are worse for my HH and Brom.
I used to find winter easier to deal with than summer and looked forward to but this winter my problems have been almost as bad as summer.

I have consequently been really down this past year and effected me quite badly.

I can quite easily say have this procedure done has been the biggest regret in my life in terms of financially and what it has done to me physically and consequently mentally.

I have just the past week been to see my Derm and got a prescription for Glyco (Robinul) which I'm waiting for the pharmacy to get in so I'm looking forward to trying that to see if will help.

They have also offered underarm Ionto for the first time so going to give that a go aswell.
Have botox booked in month which I find helps a bit but doesn't last long unfortunately.
 
IntheLabyrinth

IntheLabyrinth

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I'm sorry that you had such a bad experience with the procedure. It's very disconcerting that they monitor this website!
 
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PrfMarkWhiteley

Member
I am grateful to one of my many satisfied patients who sent me a link to this thread.

I note that no-one is brave enough to post their name!!!

The only patient I have ever had whose story comes even close to the one in this post came to see me having had failed surgery in the USA previously.

I told them the scar tissue would be to much and it was very unlikely to work and advised against having LSA.

The patient insisted saying they would take the risk.

If this story is a real patient, then be brave enough to post your name and give your consent that we can discuss the details of our case in the open.

As it is, posting a "review" from an anonymous name of "Teaandtoast" is not credible.

It is typical behaviour of an internet Troll to post incorrect information under a hidden identity - as with those who have answered too.

I am very happy to be identified as I have nothing to hide and indeed have a lot of research behind the Laser Sweat Ablation technique that I invented - modifying it from the SDLA procedure.

I look forwards to an open discussion if you really have a story to tell and if you weren't the person warned that LSA wasn't right for you.

Professor Mark Whiteley
The Whiteley Clinic
 
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Jonathanhh

Active member
Mark, do you really expect for someone to give personal information when writing a review?

Clearly you don't mind since it doesn't affect you; only gives you more clients to treat, but for someone writing their experience I'm not going to expect them to put their full name.

You can't say someone isn't credible because of their username; if anything, they're more credible than you. He's been part of this hyperhidrosis community since 2007, while you only have two posts, and just say nothing but wonders about your procedure, which is expected.

I don't know anything about the situation between you two, but message him if there's a problem; don't ask for someone to put their name because you disagree with the review.
 
Englishman

Englishman

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Jonathanhh said:
Mark, do you really expect for someone to give personal information when writing a review?

Clearly you don't mind since it doesn't affect you; only gives you more clients to treat, but for someone writing their experience I'm not going to expect them to put their full name.

You can't say someone isn't credible because of their username; if anything, they're more credible than you. He's been part of this hyperhidrosis community since 2007, while you only have two posts, and just say nothing but wonders about your procedure, which is expected.

I don't know anything about the situation between you two, but message him if there's a problem; don't ask for someone to put their name because you disagree with the review.
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Exactly! Hardly a troll, how cheeky!
 
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Sprawling

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I totally agree with Jonathanhh. 300 posts gives some degree of credibility. We gain nothing from lying about our HH experiences. Every Dr., patient, health care professional or anyone for that matter messes up from time to time.

It would be totally hard to believe that PrfMarkWhiteley has never gotten less than desirable results.

The doctor who did my daughters scoliosis surgery 11 years ago said he never had a complication from the surgery. Since day one after the surgery she's been in chronic pain, debilitated and doctors refuse to treat her. Bet you anything that her doctor doesn't mention her to anyone PrfMarkWhiteley. So let's be honest PrfMarkWhiteley.
 
teandtoast

teandtoast

Well-known member
PrfMarkWhiteley said:
I am grateful to one of my many satisfied patients who sent me a link to this thread.

I note that no-one is brave enough to post their name!!!

The only patient I have ever had whose story comes even close to the one in this post came to see me having had failed surgery in the USA previously.

I told them the scar tissue would be to much and it was very unlikely to work and advised against having LSA.

The patient insisted saying they would take the risk.

If this story is a real patient, then be brave enough to post your name and give your consent that we can discuss the details of our case in the open.

As it is, posting a "review" from an anonymous name of "Teaandtoast" is not credible.

It is typical behaviour of an internet Troll to post incorrect information under a hidden identity - as with those who have answered too.

I am very happy to be identified as I have nothing to hide and indeed have a lot of research behind the Laser Sweat Ablation technique that I invented - modifying it from the SDLA procedure.

I look forwards to an open discussion if you really have a story to tell and if you weren't the person warned that LSA wasn't right for you.

Professor Mark Whiteley
The Whiteley Clinic
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Firstly I'm quite taken aback by the manner of your reply.

My apologies for not being full of praise after spending £3700 on a procedure that did nothing and left me in a worse position than before I had it done.

"I note that no-one is brave enough to post their name!!!"
In case you are not aware of how public forums work, people do not normally post their names, especially on a Socialphobia / Hyperhidrosis forum, a very sensitive subject for sufferers and not something they want the world knowing.

I have been part of this community for 8 years and have no reason to lie.
I like to help fellow Hyperhidrosis sufferers in any way I can and that includes sharing honest feedback of experiences I have had, good and bad.

I have no intention of having an open discussion with you and have the right to patient confidentiality. The experience I had with your clinic affected me badly and I do not want to go over it all again.
Just writing the feedback on here and raking it up was hard enough and took me a long time to do.

To top it off and be likened to a troll for my review I find quite hurtful.
 
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alwayssunnyinphiladelphia

alwayssunnyinphiladelphia

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PrfMarkWhiteley said:
I am grateful to one of my many satisfied patients who sent me a link to this thread.

I note that no-one is brave enough to post their name!!!


It is typical behaviour of an internet Troll to post incorrect information under a hidden identity - as with those who have answered too.


Professor Mark Whiteley
The Whiteley Clinic
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Genius did you also note this is a forum for people with mental health problems, people aren't being anonymous because of a lack of bravery!

You are the troll here, you are not on this site to give advice or share a story or talk to people or anything, you are here specifically to start an argument with someone who disagrees with you so you are the troll! If you are gonna call teaandtoast a troll then I am going to call you a charlatan!
 
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brunettee

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I can assure you tea and toast is a real person who I have spoke to for many years on and off I met them on here many years ago as we have similar symptoms. I myself would never put my real name on here the less people know the better. They have also gone into detail with me regarding LSA as I was going to have the same op done with a diffrent doctor but changed my mind as it has not worked for them and iam grateful for there info as I to would be in the same situation paying a lot of money for an operation that wouldn't work. You cannot expect anyone to put there real names on here we have got something to hide a very embarrassing distressing problem where people are quick to judge and ridicule us for a problem we have no control of. Your comment is kinda insensitive Mr Whitley
 
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PrfMarkWhiteley

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Not surprising that you don't want an open discussion nor reveal your name ... it appears that the story you gave is untrue.

Your other points are irrelevant if you are not giving a truthful account.

You may well find being called a troll is hurtful - however I also find that people telling untruths about me and my clinic to be even more so.

If you really have a point to make - then the offer of an open discussion is there.

If you don't, I suggest you stop writing untruthful posts.
 
alwayssunnyinphiladelphia

alwayssunnyinphiladelphia

Well-known member
PrfMarkWhiteley said:
Not surprising that you don't want an open discussion nor reveal your name ... it appears that the story you gave is untrue.

Your other points are irrelevant if you are not giving a truthful account.

You may well find being called a troll is hurtful - however I also find that people telling untruths about me and my clinic to be even more so.

If you really have a point to make - then the offer of an open discussion is there.

If you don't, I suggest you stop writing untruthful posts.
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Well I suggest you provide evidence before you start calling someone a liar.
You have provided no evidence that what he is saying is lies and on this website he has more credibility than you! Seeing as you provide no evidence that teaandtoast is a liar then everything YOU say is irrelevant!
 
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Geordie93

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PrfMarkWhiteley said:
Not surprising that you don't want an open discussion nor reveal your name ... it appears that the story you gave is untrue.

Your other points are irrelevant if you are not giving a truthful account.

You may well find being called a troll is hurtful - however I also find that people telling untruths about me and my clinic to be even more so.

If you really have a point to make - then the offer of an open discussion is there.

If you don't, I suggest you stop writing untruthful posts.
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**** off pal.
 
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brunettee

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What part of there story do you not believe Mr Whitley have you had regular check up appointments with them since having the op. There story hasn't changed once since I've been speaking to them. So your saying all the patients you have treated you have cured by this one I find that very hard to believe they have no reason to lie specially private conversations with me and as I've said there story is no diffrent to what they have said in the thread.
 
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PrfMarkWhiteley

Member
Easy to answer all of these questions:

1] Laser Sweat Ablation as introduced by me and using the Whiteley LSA Cannula is based upon good scientific evidence an experiments. results have been presented at international meetings of experts.

2] The story presented here by "teaandtoast" misses out vital information and so gives a totally untrue picture of the case.

I am very happy to provide all evidence required to prove my points - it is the lack of consent by the anonymous "teaandtoast" that is preventing this. I would not hav bothered to answer this if "teaandtoast" had not named me and my clinic directly.

By doing so, "teaandtoast" may be doing a massive disservice to people who could be cured by our technique of laser sweat ablation by putting them off with a story that is factually incorrect.
 
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PrfMarkWhiteley

Member
Hi Brunette,
In your messages to me you have said you had "Laser Sweat Ablation" but not using my technique not equipment.
Therefore it is not true laser sweat ablation and I can't answer for what other doctors who aren't using our researched techniques.
I have presented our research internationally and continue to research this area to get the very best treatment for my patients.
 
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brunettee

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I have never had lsa I was considering it offered to me privately from another doctor I saw who works for for the nhs. I assumed it was lsa as this is what the doctor advised me and I thought just because you invented the procedure does not mean other doctors cannot also do it but if u say they can't then ok it is not an operation I wouldn't risk now anyway as I don't think would help me. Your operation cannot be 100% successful as it has obviously done nothing to help tea and toast if something does not work after spending thousands of pounds you should expect bad reviews that's all part of the parcel..rite
 
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Jonathanhh

Active member
Mark, teaandtoast had a full detailed thread about his experience - until you threatened a lawsuit if this site didn't remove his thread. Not to mention how hard it is to believe your procedure is 100%, especially with how difficult it is to treat hyperhidrosis.

It's clear you're just on this site to not ruin your reputation; aka so you can just make more money from your 'satisfied' patients.
 
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