My serious HH in head - Using Oxybutynin Now

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Mike0517

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Hey guys, I would like to share my personal experience to HH. First of all, please accept my poor English ...... I come from Hong Kong and the weather is relative hot. In summer time, the temperature can become 35C and the humidity is around 80%.
HH make me feel embarrassing in my daily life since the most affect section is my head. Every time I go out, my head only keep 3 mins dry and keep sweating. Even in the winter time, the situation can be better but still easy to sweat.
I tried to consult my personal doctor and he direct me to check my blood but can find the root. I tried Chinese Medicine also, the problem seems improve a little bit but not clear. Frankly, the Chinese Medicine even more expensive than other's treatment method. I can't stop sweating. It affect my daily life and career. I tried to use Odaban before, It made me dry a longer time but heavy sweeting still occur afterward.
Now, I try to take Oxybutynin 2.5mg at nigh. Seems the medicine is work but I feel headache right now. I am not sure whether I need to keep using Oxybutynin or not. But I don't have other choice.
Is there any folk who suffering from senior HH in head? Can you tell me your way to settle the problem? Moreover, is it okay for me to take the medicine to solve the headache problem?
 
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HHelper

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Hi,

Try AVERT (glycopyrrolate)

This medication work GREAT for me.
I have few side effects. (dry lips, dry hands, and a little dry mouth) Very tolerable.

I have facial hyperhidrosis (It works on the whole body)

You can buy AVERT on pharmacy.ca without prescription.
 
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"The oxybutynin is an anticholinergic prescription that was used in some cases to reduce excessive sweating. Administered orally, the product passes through blood brain barrier and inhibit cholinergic fibers in other parts of the body"

"Glycopyrronium bromide (AVERT) is a medication of the muscarinic anticholigernic group. It does not cross the blood-brain barrer and consequently has no to few central effects."
 
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Mike0517

Member
HHelper said:
Hi,

Try AVERT (glycopyrrolate)

This medication work GREAT for me.
I have few side effects. (dry lips, dry hands, and a little dry mouth) Very tolerable.

I have facial hyperhidrosis (It works on the whole body)

You can buy AVERT on pharmacy.ca without prescription.
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Hi HHelper
Thank you for your information. Seems I am used to this medicine right now (3 Days). Will above online store be able to ship the product to Hong Kong ? Thank you.
This one"Avert 0.5mg (oral glycopyrrolate) 50 Caps " ??? One Caps per day ??? Take it before sleep ???
Thank you.
 
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HHelper

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Mike0517 said:
Hi HHelper
Thank you for your information. Seems I am used to this medicine right now (3 Days). Will above online store be able to ship the product to Hong Kong ? Thank you.
This one"Avert 0.5mg (oral glycopyrrolate) 50 Caps " ??? One Caps per day ??? Take it before sleep ???
Thank you.
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You do not need a prescription, but you have to consult a pharmacist before buying AVERT.

Go on Pharmacy.ca

Choose "personalized Medicine"
Then you click on "Excessive Sweating"
Then you click on "CLICK FOR A FREE CONSULTATION"
Continue/Answer questions (don't worry it's safe)

After that, a pharmacist will contact you by phone or email (you decide) to advise you.
Then you can buy their products

.In my case, i use 2mg (2x1mg)
 
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HHelper

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"This one"Avert 0.5mg (oral glycopyrrolate) 50 Caps " ??? One Caps per day ??? Take it before sleep ???

Thank you"
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0.5 is very low.
2mg twice a day (morning and afternoon) seems to be the "norm".

You take it on an empty stomach (after not eating for 2,3 hours)
And you eat 1:30 to 2 hours after taking it, not before...

And I suggest you try the "trial" first.
 
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Mike0517

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HHelper said:
"This one"Avert 0.5mg (oral glycopyrrolate) 50 Caps " ??? One Caps per day ??? Take it before sleep ???

Thank you"
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0.5 is very low.
2mg twice a day (morning and afternoon) seems to be the "norm".

You take it on an empty stomach (after not eating for 2,3 hours)
And you eat 1:30 to 2 hours after taking it, not before...

And I suggest you try the "trial" first.
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I just do the online consultant. Hope they will reply me as soon as possible. I can't find too much information about glycopyrrolate. What is the original purpose of this medicine and the possible side effect except reduce the sweat glance? Thank you.

I find the similar medicine in Hong Kong but it request prescription only medicine. Maybe I need to check further with related department to see if I can import it through online store :(
 
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kandyjet

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Hai mike,
(hold on.. let me wipe out the sweating poring from my head and face, coz i just went and came from the boutique near by)

exactly you and me are in the same company. can't explain in words The setbacks and embressments i had in the pas 10 years as a result of this head sweating. i am currently working in saudi arabia and its a hell for HH people. there are not a single day without the head sweat in my past 10 years.

if you need a perment solution for this, then ETS surgery is what you need to do. BUT WARNING! SIDE EFFECTS.

Read this comment posted today by one member who did ets 3 months ago.

As promised, here is an update on how things have been lately:

It turns out that the results of my surgery were completely asymmetrical. What I mean by this is that the right side of my face can sweat (and does profusely) during temperatures past roughly 75 degrees or under strenuous physical activity such as cardio. As stated before, my right hand does get clammy but nowhere near as much as it once was. The left side of my face only sweats during strenuous cardio exercise but very, very little.

The surgery itself was performed in March, and it was still brisk outside. We have had a somewhat intense summer here in New Jersey so far, so the CS has been hard to bear with on days where temperatures are 80 degrees and above. I need to give everyone a fair warning here: the doctors will undermine how bad CS can really get. You don't know how bad it is until once you get it. From just driving with the windows down, I have had sweat marks on my shirt. To be fair, the sweat is only visible there because I am leaning on the seat. If I am moving around, it rarely seeps through the shirt. If I am truly feeling self conscious about it, robinul usually diminishes it or I simply wear black. Once summer is over, I'm positive the CS will become bearable.

Here is where I may lose some of you. ETS is basically a psychosurgery that diminishes the flight or fight response drastically. Since the surgery, I have felt generally apathetic to most of my environment. Recently, I landed my first ever assistant manager position and felt completely indifferent towards it. I no longer feel that "thump thump" or the little jolts of excitement I felt pre-surgery. I am much more confident due to my dry hands, but generally apathetic at the same time. I have found myself faking excitement around friends and co-workers. This all sounds vague, trust me, but you will feel "disconnected" in a sense. This is perhaps my biggest problem with the surgery. However, I am learning to cope with this by realizing the anxious mess I used to be pre-surgery. Coffee does help keep me alert, but also increases my CS some.

All in all, yes ETS did accomplish what it was assigned to fix (even though my results were asymmetrical). However, doctors are still pitching this surgery to patients that these nerves only target sweating, and nothing more. The reality is that the nerves targeted are crucial to how we respond to our surroundings and people.


To my fellow hyperhidrosis sufferers: no matter how distressed your sweating makes you, cling to the moments that make you feel genuine joy. ETS will rob you of that. Dry hands are wonderful and my professional life is much better, but I can't even feel genuine happiness over any of it. Don't have this surgery done. I feel as if I am on Xanax daily, but ten fold. I want to be another success story, but it was so naive for me to have this done.

P.S- I'm sorry for the long-winded post. If any of you have further questions, message me or you can even call me (609-287-0713) if you are feeling distressed about your hyperhidrosis. I don't want another person lied to about ETS.
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I decided to go through with ETS - Page 3 - SocialPhobiaWorld.com

yes i am using oxyspass, a flavour of oxysbutin, but the problem is you need to take it on empty stomach for maximum effect. but dry mouth and blury with headech are very inconvenient.
 
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Mike0517

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Hi kandyjet,
I searched some ETS information before. It seems that the side effect is quite serious for some people (Compensation sweating ...etc.).
Seems Sweden and Norway already banned / restricted this surgery. In Taiwan, there are lot of people who suffer from the side effect of this surgery. They can stop the original sweating but most of them will keep sweating in the lower position below nipple. The upper body will become very hot and dry while the hand / feet will feel very cold. Also they temperature reaction will become totally different from normal people. Since the side effect is not reversible and serious to Asian people, I may not do it.
If you decide to do ETS, hope it can help you to solve the problem without any serious side effect.
 
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kandyjet

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Hai mike
correct. also ets affects they way we react to emotional situations.

btw,

1. do you have hair loss as a result of this head sweat?
2. can we apply ordaban to entire hair like we apply a hair gel?
 
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Mike0517

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kandyjet said:
Hai mike
correct. also ets affects they way we react to emotional situations.

btw,

1. do you have hair loss as a result of this head sweat?
2. can we apply ordaban to entire hair like we apply a hair gel?
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1. No. I don't feel any hair loss due to head sweat. It make me very shy when meeting with new friend ..... Water always dropping from my hair to the floor :(
2. Are you talking about Odaban ? If yes, it is okay to use at the head. Their suggestion (From Taiwan / Hong Kong website) is try to spray on the head skin directly and do some massage afterward. Please note that they request user to use it at night with a absolute dry skin (without any sweat / water ...etc.) and wash it in the morning.
In my personal experience, it can help a bit but not much.
 
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kandyjet

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THanks mike.

btw, now how long your having this problem?
and your getting burning sensation on your body when your sweating?
 
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Mike0517

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kandyjet said:
THanks mike.

btw, now how long your having this problem?
and your getting burning sensation on your body when your sweating?
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This problem was found in my primary school .....
Compare with other, my head and scalp is extremely temperature sensitive. Most of the time I don't really feel hot or even a bit cold but the sweat keep going :eek:mg:. One of the typical case happen in my life is as follow. I went to South Korea in winter, at that time the weather is very cold to me (Snow melting). I need to walk around 3 mins ramps from train station to hotel. My scalp can keep sweating during that temperature. Most of the passer looked at me surprisingly. I know that they are wonder why I keep sweating at that situation.

Moreover, I just receive the reply from pharmacy.ca. They suggest me to use topical glycopyrrolate or oral glycopyrrolate. But I feel some confusion how to apply the topical glycoprrolate on the scalp with hair cover? Now, I am waiting the reply from Hong Kong Government to see if I can import that oral glycopyrrolate.
 
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Mike0517

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Oh ... Just got the reply from drugs department. Imported this kinds of medicine is prohibit. I need to find other substitute medicine for AVERT in Hong Kong.
Is there any folk will inject botox to stop sweating? The cost is quite high compare with medicine. Normally they need 100-200 unit for whole scalp. In Hong Kong, 100 unit cost around 800-1000 US$.
 
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