I think appletree is right. IF (!) HH is caused by an overreactive sympathetic nervous system (maybe because of an underlying condition that is still unknown), than you would expect the HH to be just one of the consequences.
The sympathetic nervous system stimulates a lot of things other than sweating (body temperature regulation), such as heart rate, pupil dilation, blood pressure etc. On top of that it stimulates the creation of adrenalin, which in turn (like a secondary circuit) stimulates most of the above and stays active in the body for up to 1,5 hours. The latter is maybe why, when HH kicks in, it's nearly if not totally impossible to turn it down again
So you would expect all these other factors to be elevated as well. So apart from all the misery HH sufferers like us probably also have quick reactions and the ability to concentrate well...
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject:
appletree wrote:
i would say it's the other way around and that higher body temperature causes hyperhidrosis.
Thank you very much for your response. You're right -- it does make more sense. When people touch my arms they can tell my temperature is much higher -- this is all year round.
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:07 pm Post subject:
Jezza wrote:
I think appletree is right. IF (!) HH is caused by an overreactive sympathetic nervous system (maybe because of an underlying condition that is still unknown), than you would expect the HH to be just one of the consequences.
The sympathetic nervous system stimulates a lot of things other than sweating (body temperature regulation), such as heart rate, pupil dilation, blood pressure etc. On top of that it stimulates the creation of adrenalin, which in turn (like a secondary circuit) stimulates most of the above and stays active in the body for up to 1,5 hours. The latter is maybe why, when HH kicks in, it's nearly if not totally impossible to turn it down again
So you would expect all these other factors to be elevated as well. So
apart from all the misery HH sufferers like us probably also have quick reactions and the ability to concentrate well...
Yay!
Thank you Jezza!
My body temperature has always felt above the normal. I mentioned to Appletree that when people happen to touch my arm, my back, they notice. I show symptoms of hyperhidrosis in my palms, feet, armpits -- always sweating.
Summers are terrible. I get really overwhelmed. My fiance sleeps at the edge of our bed, he gets really hot if he's very close to me.
There's one other thing, since I was four or five, I would faint very easily because the heat -- I have fainted in three ocasions in the past four years. I drink a lot of water and eat the best I can. What explains it, in part I think, is that I tend to have low blood pressure. My mother suffers from the same condition -- low blood pressure, very warm when you touch her, but she doesn't show any minimal sign of hyperhidrosis.
It makes me a bit angry that there aren't that many specialists out there doing research in hyperhidrosis. This condition can ruin lives
But we must do whatever it is at our reach to get better
Thanks again! I will do some research on the sympathetic nervous system and post any relevant finding.
windcave, have you ever looked into drugs such as robinul?
they are a class of drugs called antichologernics (check the spelling of that)
and they reduce sweating as one of the side effects, however they do supposedly have other undesirable side effects such as dry mouth.
some people have had luck using these drugs in combination with sprays like odaban.
i am currently waiting to recieve some robinul pills from the dermatologist, it was a right game trying to get them prescribed though, however as you live in america i guess the medical community is totally different over there.
there is also iontophersis and some people have great results from that (though it didn't help me at all ) but it's worth giving these things a go.
i know exactly what you are going through so if you want to talk on messenger on here, or send me a message at all go ahead.
-mark.
Beside those symptoms at this particular time in my life i have even more disguisting and debilitating physical symptoms. I need to confess it to someone via PM or mini messenger or via skype (el kid disconnected, i wont use the mic/speaker/video option just type). So , please..anyone... u even dont have to read i just need to drop the shitty lament-list somewhere. If u tend to accumulate symptoms than i will have mercy on you . (Going to the doctor is out of question , because i become even more introspective that way , i will try to do cbt on my own and also to build confidence and toughness by self-made mantras)
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:17 pm Post subject:
rado31
PM me anytime. I have never met anyone who sweats more than me facially and on the chest and neck. I don't sweat under the armpits, hands or feet. But nothing can surprise me so if you want to talk then please do ....
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:06 am Post subject: thanks
Hi appletree,
Have never heard of robinul. I have an appointment with a dermatologist next week and I'll ask. I just recently got off from lexapro and wellbutrin (for depression and generalized anxiety) - one of the main reasons because of the side effects.
How has the robinul worked for you? I hope you are doing better
Same here if you want to chat or need someone to listen. Thank you!
appletree wrote:
windcave, have you ever looked into drugs such as robinul?
they are a class of drugs called antichologernics (check the spelling of that)
and they reduce sweating as one of the side effects, however they do supposedly have other undesirable side effects such as dry mouth.
some people have had luck using these drugs in combination with sprays like odaban.
i am currently waiting to recieve some robinul pills from the dermatologist, it was a right game trying to get them prescribed though, however as you live in america i guess the medical community is totally different over there.
there is also iontophersis and some people have great results from that (though it didn't help me at all ) but it's worth giving these things a go.
i know exactly what you are going through so if you want to talk on messenger on here, or send me a message at all go ahead.
-mark.
Hi Windcave,
I have the same experience. My hands are very warm when they don’t sweat and people who touch my hands used to ask me whether I’m having fever. But they don’t ask anything when my hands are cold & clammy – they know I’m sweating like hell
I agree that increased body temperature causes sweating. It’s one of the mechanisms switched on to bring down the body temperature to its the normal range.
But I doubt whether these mechanisms strictly behave so in individuals with HH. Here the drive for sweating (mediated by ‘sympathetic’ nerves not blood adrenaline level) is so high that profuse sweating continues to occur regardless of body temperature regulation.
During cold I shiver and my skin gets goose-flesh meaning that my body tries to bring up the temperature – but bizarrely I sweat from hands, feet and axilla at the same time.
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I will do some research on the sympathetic nervous system and post any relevant finding.
) but it's worth giving these things a go.
