Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:03 am Post subject: i feel so stressed
hey im 20 years old and ive been sweating on my hands and feet since i can remember. it hasn't been until the past couple years that it has actually started to bother me. socially i feel like im disgusting and have problems with girls alot because of it. i play many instruments like guitar and violin but its getting really hard for me to do these things just from the sheer fact that the sweating makes my hands hurt and i cant hold my instrument. in class i cant take notes without the sweat going all over my papers. its hard for me too even grip my wheel when im driving.i just feel so stressed out and actually depressed(which i know might sound stupid), im glad i found this site so i can let off a little steam.
ive been on many diffrent things including creams and such. right now im currently taking the detrol, but my body is becoming immune to it. im considering getting the clamping done just because i think severing the nerve is to drastic. if anyone has any feedback for me please let me know. sorry if i rambled on alot but this is the only place i feel i can do it.
This site is to rample about this shitty HH disease,at lest one of the things.Solutions,informations etc is also important.
Have you tried iontophoresis,it work for many people.I use Idrostar ionto whit pretty good results I also use dehydral for my fingertips that still is sweating after ionto that actually seems to work to.But I am still in the startingfase whit the dehydral cream.
There are a lot of things to try out before you jump to the conclution of ETS operation.That is what I am thinking at least.
Pinker has a topic of different things to try out on this site.
From what I have heard,there is no difference in cutting and clamping.By clamping you still damage/destroy you nervesystem.Maybe if you take it out again in a few days there is a chanse.
In outher cases ETS has been a lifesaver.
I would tried out different things before ETS.
Here is a link to people who is against ETS because of the side-effects.
Joined: May 03, 2005 Posts: 1229 Location: 20/m/England
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:26 pm Post subject:
Hey ohmyhands, i'm in a similar situation with my hands and I can understand everything you've said, i'm about the same age as you. I would think twice before you have surgery first. About two years ago I started having iontophoresis treatment for severe hand sweating and it has changed things a lot. Most of the time my hands are dry but even if they're not it will be my fingertips that are moist, thats still a huge improvement from having totally wet hands. You can ask your GP to refer you to a dermatologist and you can do trial treatments to test it out. I would do this before considering surgery. Its also been the case with some people that the sympathetic nerve can't be restored regardless of removing the clamps.
Btw are you from England? Where abouts are you from?
Joined: Sep 16, 2007 Posts: 36 Location: oxford UK
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:31 pm Post subject:
Hi All,
I am 30 now, but had ETS surgery for Palmer HH when i was 18......my only regret is that i wish i had tried harder to battle it before resorting to surgery .
As you have probably read, ETS can put you in a worse position. My advise is to try everything you can.....then try it again before even considering ETS.
Make sure you are being realistic about how dry you want your hands to be......in other words you hands dont have to be bone dry, just "acceptable" in how much they sweat. Surgery is definately the last resort!
Joined: Jun 03, 2006 Posts: 118 Location: Wiltshire
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:33 pm Post subject: Re: i feel so stressed
ohmyhands wrote:
hey im 20 years old and ive been sweating on my hands and feet since i can remember. it hasn't been until the past couple years that it has actually started to bother me. socially i feel like im disgusting and have problems with girls alot because of it. i play many instruments like guitar and violin but its getting really hard for me to do these things just from the sheer fact that the sweating makes my hands hurt and i cant hold my instrument. in class i cant take notes without the sweat going all over my papers. its hard for me too even grip my wheel when im driving.i just feel so stressed out and actually depressed(which i know might sound stupid), im glad i found this site so i can let off a little steam.
ive been on many diffrent things including creams and such. right now im currently taking the detrol, but my body is becoming immune to it. im considering getting the clamping done just because i think severing the nerve is to drastic. if anyone has any feedback for me please let me know. sorry if i rambled on alot but this is the only place i feel i can do it.
From everything I have read over the last 3 years, I would simply say don't do the surgery. From all reports I have read it doesn't work, it gives you further problems and it is not reversable.
Joined: May 03, 2005 Posts: 1229 Location: 20/m/England
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:03 pm Post subject:
cadmonkey wrote:
Hi All,
I am 30 now, but had ETS surgery for Palmer HH when i was 18......my only regret is that i wish i had tried harder to battle it before resorting to surgery .
As you have probably read, ETS can put you in a worse position. My advise is to try everything you can.....then try it again before even considering ETS.
Make sure you are being realistic about how dry you want your hands to be......in other words you hands dont have to be bone dry, just "acceptable" in how much they sweat. Surgery is definately the last resort!
What kind of side effects are you suffering with now as a result?
You see, so so many people have posted complaining about post-ets side effects, there are new people giving accounts all the time. It really makes you question just what the satisfaction rate with the surgery really is.
Joined: Sep 16, 2007 Posts: 36 Location: oxford UK
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:00 pm Post subject:
Hi Pinker,
Well, as far as the surgery goes it did what it was meant to do, with no complications....my hands dont sweat at all now (maybe ever so slightly when very hot and stressed). I have had no side effects relating to pain, eye probs etc which i believe some have. The main problem for me has been the CS, which affects me on the back, chest and groin. I have not noticed much change in how much my feet sweat.
Although my back and chest are dry most of the time, i only have to do moderate exercise before sweating badly, and if in a hot room and stressfull situation eg a meeting at work, i can soak my shirt in 10mins flat (this is a personnal record of mine ). This has had the greatest impact on my life....i no longer wear 'coloured' tops and stick to white or black most of the time. This has also lead to panic attacks.....i start sweating even before i get into the meeting! . I have been slowly learning how to control this, and now wear klinerts undershirts under my work shirts......strangely enough, even though i am hotter with these undershirts on, i dont sweat as badly in stressful situations as i do not panic or worry about sweating.
I think that ETS surgery can be a lifeline for some people, but i think that there should be tests before you have the surgery to try to estimate the seriousness of the CS. For example, before ETS my back hardly sweated at all, after it now sweats quite alot therefore if you have a sweaty back before ETS, it should be recommended not to have it as it will make this much much worse.
I dont think my CS has changed much since the 'honeymoon' period ended (lasted about 6 months after surgery)......12 years on, it is just my mental attitude which has changed which is making my CS worse.
Thinking back, i wish i had had it on just one hand.......i assume this would only give half the CS, which would be just about bearable.
hey pinker im in the US in Florida of all places. i have an iontophoresis machine and have tried it many times. maybe i didnt do it enough, how often did you do it before you started using it less? the main reason why i never use it is just because between a job, shows and school i barley even have time to sleep, but id still like to know how much you used it.
Joined: May 03, 2005 Posts: 1229 Location: 20/m/England
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 2:02 pm Post subject:
ohmyhands wrote:
hey pinker im in the US in Florida of all places. i have an iontophoresis machine and have tried it many times. maybe i didnt do it enough, how often did you do it before you started using it less? the main reason why i never use it is just because between a job, shows and school i barley even have time to sleep, but id still like to know how much you used it.
In the hospital it took about 7 treatments before I was dry, at home it took about 10-13 treatments in the space of 3 weeks. At home I have to use it once or usually twice a week for 1 hour. There are various tricks you can use such as using a higher current on the +ve pole, applying baking soda or sea salt, or using glycopyrrolate solution.
Joined: May 03, 2005 Posts: 1229 Location: 20/m/England
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 2:06 pm Post subject:
cadmonkey wrote:
Hi Pinker,
Well, as far as the surgery goes it did what it was meant to do, with no complications....my hands dont sweat at all now (maybe ever so slightly when very hot and stressed). I have had no side effects relating to pain, eye probs etc which i believe some have. The main problem for me has been the CS, which affects me on the back, chest and groin. I have not noticed much change in how much my feet sweat.
Yeah the CS must be pretty awful to deal with, even if you don't sweat on your hands any more I guess it must be really unconfortable sweating over a large area. At least you don't have any other side effects though which is a minor miracle. Do you sweat at all on the upper part of your body? (chest upwards)
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). This has had the greatest impact on my life....i no longer wear 'coloured' tops and stick to white or black most of the time. This has also lead to panic attacks.....i start sweating even before i get into the meeting! 
. I have been slowly learning how to control this, and now wear klinerts undershirts under my work shirts......strangely enough, even though i am hotter with these undershirts on, i dont sweat as badly in stressful situations as i do not panic or worry about sweating.