The Letter from Jesus

Doomed2Die · Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject:

Heh, well all humankind is flawed from the whole adam and eve sin thing... sooo SP is just a degradation of humankind that we suffer with, getting worse intill the showdown ;D. Personally I would change Jesus over to Jehovah since jesus was acting in the name of god and not for himself (read.selfless), but yeah thats my opinion so differing religions kinda dissuade this.

SocialRetahd, maybe thats just the world wanting you to think that? Satan owns this system of things after all. I understand exactly how you feel about religion, I felt the same not long ago and as a logical being I was too into science and what not to think its true. But its a gradual thing, if you look there is so much evidence to it, its like I was blind intill I learned the truth (crazy talk eh? lol ^^).

flake__ · Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject:

You can reduce emotion to one spectrum, on one side fear, on one side love. The 2 strongest emotions.
Love/trust is a way to get over social phobia.

This is why religion can be used to fight social phobia. Because you come to trust God/'Jesus'.

However is Christianity/religion morally right? I just don't see it. I would rather put my trust into something real. Not something imagined, someone i have never met...basically 'giving myself up' to some God, you are all powerful, i am nothing etc. I love you more than i love my family, my friends. I know nothing, I will not think, I will just blindly obey. I will follow rules written in some book that i have not invented myself, i have not debated and agreed with.

My opinion is Jesus was just a man...a normal man. A good man who did good things, crucified like many other people who stood up to the Romans. People create him into God for their OWN purpose. It is very convenient to have someone that totally loves you, that has all the answers, that will look after you. Is this selfish/egoist, or for people that desparately NEED it, unhealthy, destructive?

I think Buddhism is the middle way..a way to be spiritual, without having this weird relationship with an imaginary thing...yes, there might be a powerful force, do you really think it is human, and that you can have an extremely personal human-like relationship with it? What about the people around you? Why can't you just do something good just because you know it will make someone else feel better and bring meaning to them?

Sorry if this upsets alot of people, it is just my opinion.

Doomed2Die · Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:47 pm Post subject:

I totally can see what you mean, heck I thought the same thing two-three months back. Ever since I have been started studying the bible I honestly noticed a huge change in me, I was bitter and hated everything and gradually to the total bewildering of myself I started to 'see' as odd as it sounds all the troubles of the world and why people act as they do, I felt more love for everything and everyone, to hate another is pretty difficult for me even if they are the most hated personal on earth, no really. Jehovah (because that is his name according to the translation) god, is a god of love. The bible even says you should test god repeatedly and ask questions.

Anyway god is not human he is a spiritual creature thing that pretty much is tied to every human, if he created us then surely there is a bond. And about helping others, if we (true christians) are to follow jesus in his example of christianty then are we not trying to be helping others? The people I study with the simply the most nicest and helping people I have known through media or otherwise, they spend all their life helping others out of love, is that selfless enough, and unlike some(sorry MOST) places the offer their study for free.

Uh sorry If I got too deep into it, but its so so so amazing and true, so many things staring us right in the face its incredible. Also about religions I mean no offence but I stand by my personal reasoning, test your faith, test your heart.