Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:05 pm Post subject: Let's flush out the actual truth about ETS Surgery!!!
I'm sick of hearing contrasting stories/tesimonials of ETS patients. It seems to be either 'It made my life worse & didn't benefit me in the slightest' or 'Its a miracle.... I now don't blush 98% of the time & only have very minor side effects ie.excessive sweating'. There seems to be no middle ground.
This is so frustration, what is the ACTUAL truth?
The majority of serve blushing suffers' would consider going through an expensive operation if it did rectify the problem, but how can we separate fact from fiction?
Could all ETS patients(or people in the know) post as many testimonials as possible so we can get to the bottom of this please.
We should be seeing terrible complaints and questions about what to do(after unsuccessful ETS operations) on these forums... There would be those people complaining...
I'm scheduled to get ETS done on Febuary 22nd. I have been searching the internet like a madman for information about the surgery. You're correct when you say that people either report drastic success or drastic failure. Here is what I concluded:
I have noticed that many of the people on forums who get the surgery done will post their positive stories and then they STOP visiting those forums!! Possibly because they are cured of FB and they have quickly moved on to bigger and better things. Would you still come to these forums if you were all of a sudden cured and your life took off like a rocket since you just got a HUGE confidence boost? I would probably be so happy that I would start living life to the fullest and wouldn't have the time. However, the ones who report it as a failure stick around those forums complaining of the surgery and warning others of it. ALL websites of surgeons who perform the surgery will tell you that the surgery has a 95% success rate. Then you get on the internet and read some of the horror stories and you wonder how anyone would ever even CONSIDER having this done to them.
Bottom line is that statistics don't lie. Unfortunately, there aren't many reliable statistics that have been done about ETS. You have to use deductive reasoning to find the answer yourself. The firm which I am getting my ETS done through told me that they do HUNDREDS of ETS procedures every year. YET, I can barely find 100 different people on the internet who are complaining of the surgery. Then again, you have to count for those who don't go on the internet much and they suffer through the side effects without telling anybody.
What I want to know is that if there are any common differences between the people who report success and the people who report failure? I think if someone found the answer to this, then you would know if you would have good or bad results from the surgery.
As for me getting the procedure done. I have suffered from FB for about 8 years. It has fucked my life in countless ways. I pretty much missed out on my teenage years and I have decided that I will not live like this any longer. I have decided to take the risk and get the operation done. If the operation is a failure, then at this point there is no cure and what the fuck do I have to lose if I just live my life accepting my blushing. If it is a success. Then I will report back here and on esfbchannel.com and I will begin to do the things that I have always wanted to do without my fear of going red.
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I had micro ETS for palmar HH 5 years ago after being driven absolutely nuts by my excessive palmar sweat. The surgeon was very confident in the consultations leading up to the surgery, but for some reason, he didn´t chose to tell me that there´s a considerable chance that the ganglions he would sever with the laser would grow back together after a while, untill the actual day of the surgery, just before I was sedated.
After the surgery I was so pleased with the result, because I went almost absolutely dry, but it took only 3 weeks for the effect to wear off completely, and today I feel the problem has even increased plus I have two ugly scars under my armpits. From time to time, my right arm will appear to "sleep" The surgeon offered me a "proper" ETS in which he would open up my thorax, and cut the ganglions away with extreme prejudice, but I´m having no more ETS. I´m warning off anyone who chose to try it, that it might be as great a disappointment to you, as it has been to me. I´m convinced that the human central nervous system is too complicated for today´s surgeons to mess about with, so don´t listen to them, and avoid ETS is my recommendation. I have since then solved my HH problem effectively using iontophoresis, but I realize that´s not a treatment that helps facial blushing.
Nothing actually helps facial blushing... This is a gift to us
Maybe you´re right about that, but there´s certainly no shortage of surgeons advertising here, ready to help out, and I guess if you cut off the head the problem should indeed be solved.
Well, what I think about it is that it would be a very very very bad idea for the surgons to say something like a 95% or 98% success rate, because if someone proved it wrong they would lose all their credability, would get sued and basicly be screwed for life. I think that what we read on the fourms of all the bad possiblities are from that 5% or 2% who the surgury really screwed up, because most other people wouldn't waste their time on forums like this if their cured. Saying that, I have it, not even bad, unless im doing sports (for me lacrosse and cross country) which both make me red like a beet. I really don't know if i can deal with the comments and remarks for the rest of my life its is fucking terrible anddd when I blush it is sooooo uncomfy like burning and stuff it just sucks. Now I would love to get the Micro ETS surgury, because after reasearching that is the only one that really makes sense to me. The thing that really makes me thing about it is that my doctor and two dermatologists all said is that its how my nerves are connected and how they work, and the ETS surgury cuts the nerves that deal with blood going to your face and the opening and closing of capllaries. Basicly my opinion is that it is only logical that it does work, most likely around as much as the surgons say because if they did lie and it was found out they would lose their jobs (which they had to go through at least 8 years of school to get) and all the money they made, and its not that hard to find out about those kind of lies.
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