And people that are bullied just happen to fit that description?
Should it matter what people look like or what religion they are...etc?
I don't think going against what you believe in or having plastic
surgery is a way to deal with the problem. Bullies need teaching, end of story.
We could discuss this forever but we wont stop them in this world
And people that are bullied just happen to fit that description?
Should it matter what people look like or what religion they are...etc?
I don't think going against what you believe in or having plastic
surgery is a way to deal with the problem. Bullies need teaching, end of story.
We could discuss this forever but we wont stop them in this world
Bullies need teaching for sure. But there is a procedure and at no stage does it involve an adult touching a child. Bullies themselves are lost in the world.
This has nothing to do with plastic surgery. Its about following trends that happen in school. Some parents are too strict and the children pay for it because they are rejected. Just because you have a few toys and decent trainers doesn't mean to say you don't have morals.
No it shouldn't matter what people look like etc but in this day and age it does. Generally people who are bullied stand out for some reason. In this case it might have been because he is short. He could atleast keep up with some of the trends so he doesn't feel completely alienated.
You can pursue moral standings when your grown up. At 11 years old you should be having fun and that comes when you can interact with your peers and that means having cool stuff.
edit: and another thing... at 11 years old you don't know what you believe in. Your parents try to dictate everything to you and that can destroy your confidence.
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Nah, you did the right thing. In the part of the world we live in any sort of 'discipline' towards a child is made out to be like this huge crime. Meanwhile, kids are going out murdering, dealing, and carrying on with the party of their lives by exploiting what adults will tolerate. It is natural for the older brother to step in to protect his own family. I was bullied in middle school, luckily most of the time all I had to do was bring up my older brother's name (he was notorious around town), and i would get a worried expression and excuse "Oh... but I was just kidding anyway.... sorry!"
There was one kid who didn't know my older brother though and he was my worst ever bully in school - after about a year of putting up with his bullshit I told my brother (and this time becuase there was 2 others joining in on the 'fun')
After one visit the bully backed down and kissed my ass for the rest of high school. I still think he's a idiot now, but that's another story.
Thanks all for your answers and support. I just had to get this out of me since I'm not used to being aggressive to kids, tho I feel in this case they had it coming. And to the guy who suggested getting a new haircut and trainers for my bro, what planet are you living on? That would just put a target on him. My brother is being picked on because he's the smallest kid in his class and he's not violent by nature, having something the bullies envy will just make them beat him more. I know it's not good for him to be timid, but I don't think normal kids should become villains just to get by. There are enough villains in this world already. Also I'm pretty sure those two won't bother him again, they were shivering like leaves when I left, nobody has ever given them a proper scare before and think it will have more effect than any amount of talking would. Touching kids is percieved as a major crime here too, but there just doesn't exist a penalty in the system for normal people to defend their kids from idiots. The only punishmet they could ever get is from their parents which is highly unlikely since these parents are clueless muppets who never gave their spoiled brats a beating. So yea, what else is there to do?
Thanks all for your answers and support. I just had to get this out of me since I'm not used to being aggressive to kids, tho I feel in this case they had it coming. And to the guy who suggested getting a new haircut and trainers for my bro, what planet are you living on? That would just put a target on him. My brother is being picked on because he's the smallest kid in his class and he's not violent by nature, having something the bullies envy will just make them beat him more. I know it's not good for him to be timid, but I don't think normal kids should become villains just to get by. There are enough villains in this world already. Also I'm pretty sure those two won't bother him again, they were shivering like leaves when I left, nobody has ever given them a proper scare before and think it will have more effect than any amount of talking would. Touching kids is percieved as a major crime here too, but there just doesn't exist a penalty in the system for normal people to defend their kids from idiots. The only punishmet they could ever get is from their parents which is highly unlikely since these parents are clueless muppets who never gave their spoiled brats a beating. So yea, what else is there to do?
How i see it, people bully because they don't understand the effect they're having. Without being able to put yourself in other peoples shoes, theres no reason no to be cruel to others if it is self gratifying.
Your brothers had his going from he start of school. These people have had plenty of time to decide to stop. Sure you can say they don't know any better, but i don't like that argument...
its like saying everyone is naturally a bully. its fair enough to say that everyones out for themselves, but people that capable of sadistic pleasure are arseholes. if you saw them on a drama show, crushing the spirit of some poor kid, you'd hate them. even if it was because they didn't know better. even if they came to regret it.
your bro was being bullied, hopefully now he wont be. i spare no sympathy for those guys. its not like they were physically damaged. being scared to go to school for a while is decent payback for weak cowards who spent years making someones life a misery.
i would however worry about your temper. much as i agree with your actions, i think they were at the very least, rash. still, in your position i think i would definitely do the same thing...
its alright, your not like them, because your going through this, and your not going to do anything to them again, unless they get back in their old ways. thats different to them.
you should probably talk to your bro about how you feel about it. you can help each other out
"If you look like a noob and feel like a noob and act like a noob... you are gona get bullied. By all means go against the tide... but not when your 11 and suffering."
Logically i agree with you, but in my heart, i don't think people should be going out of their way to change so as not to get bullied. Its meaningless to be accepted as someone who you aren't.
I also disagree with alot of other stuff you said, but this isn't a place for a debate..
I don't think its a bad thing to NOT beat your kids.
Logically i agree with you, but in my heart, i don't think people should be going out of their way to change so as not to get bullied. Its meaningless to be accepted as someone who you aren't.
I also disagree with alot of other stuff you said, but this isn't a place for a debate..
Fair enough. All im saying is he can be who he wants to be when hes older but right now he isn't happy and he needs help fast. I would seriously consider sending him to another school. Fresh start?
Didn't work for me... though i loved the idea at the time. I don't think he'll be happy if he consciously changes to fit in either. He'll have to be manipulated into it. I suppose studying a martial art would be a good one, under the guise of teaching him how to defend himself, he gets the chance to make new friends in a new setting, and gain confidence...
Unless hes inept like me and just has to put in more training than everyone else to get the same resuls... even so hard work doesn' lie and its a nice way to get out frustration... and you learn alot more than how to fight, assuming your being taught properley.
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