Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:35 am Post subject: metal in ionto trays
i need something to rest my hands on in the trays so that water can get underneath my palms so it will get treated. i will be resting my hands on this metal grill-like thing used for storage. will the metal coming into direct contact with my hands be a bad thing? thanks...
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:43 am Post subject: Re: metal in ionto trays
hinder87 wrote:
i need something to rest my hands on in the trays so that water can get underneath my palms so it will get treated. i will be resting my hands on this metal grill-like thing used for storage. will the metal coming into direct contact with my hands be a bad thing? thanks...
If itīs coated with vinyl, I donīt see how it could hurt you, but youīll certainly know the second you switch on the current. Didnīt you get plastic meshes to place over the electrodes with your device?
it does not come with mesh because it doesnt need it. have u seen the fischer md1a trays? check out this site. click on "excessive sweating" and its the first post. it's all the way at the bottom of the page
it does not come with mesh because it doesnt need it. have u seen the fischer md1a trays? check out this site. click on "excessive sweating" and its the first post. it's all the way at the bottom of the page
Those certainly look shallow. If it doesnīt need a mesh, then why do you want to add one? Now I understand why people complain about irritation on the side of their hands and feet from using Fischer. If I were you, Iīd get some photo-lab trays atleast as deep as Idrostar or Idromed. Iīm sure nothings wrong with the device itself, but maybe the electrodes need redesigning as well. Is there a picture with electrodes in the tray, and one with water and a foot in it as well?.
the thing is, it's hard to keep the hands floating since they will get tired. and if i rest them all the way to the bottom, water wont touch the part touching the bottom of the tray because theres no room for it to go. also because the electrod is on the side, not the bottom. any ideas on what i can rest my hands on? something like the one i asked about but plastic?
the thing is, it's hard to keep the hands floating since they will get tired. and if i rest them all the way to the bottom, water wont touch the part touching the bottom of the tray because theres no room for it to go. also because the electrod is on the side, not the bottom. any ideas on what i can rest my hands on? something like the one i asked about but plastic?
Your hands arenīt supposed to "float", the Fischer design is hopeless. I would get different trays altogether. Perhaps also different electrodes and cables like Idromed, and the mesh that goes with them. I donīt recall what Markus Bindner charges for those parts *, but itīs most likely cheaper than trying to rig something yourself. Donīt order the Idromed trays though, theyīre made to work as a portable combo, so theyīre like two halves of a small suitcase. This gives them a rather sharp edge, which can be annoying for your wrists. I usually rest my wrists on a firm cushion just slightly above the edge of the trays. This is something you have to think about, if you get new trays. They should be deeper than the Fischer trays, but not too deep, because that will cause you to sit with your hands in an uncomfortable angle. If youīre getting new trays, make sure they are big enough for both feet, if you also a foot sweater like me. this will enable you to have simultaneous hands & foot treatment (if your trays are big enough for both feet in one) This is an enormeous advantage, since you will cut total therapy hours in half, plus you can do that without an assistant, and you can read, og switch tv channels, answer phones etc. etc. while you do your therapy. If you have feet in one tray, and hands in the other, keeping one hand in the tray allows you to lift the other out (e.g. to cut the power to the ionto after the end of therapy), without getting shocked. Simply lift out the hand, wipe it in a dry towel, and turn down power on your ionto ( or place a waterproof on/off switch on a cable between the ac unit and your ionto, like Idromed 4) Fischer or Idrostar force you to take left and right side therapy seperately. I was wondering about this "every other day" routine, and only just recently realized that this is because the Fischer trays are too small.
* 0803-2008 update: Markus Bindner says a complete set of cables, aluminium electrodes and plastic mesh (Idromed 4) for two trays costs app. 100 Eur.
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:03 pm Post subject:
You don't want to have your hands in contact with the metal, but on the fischer tray it looks like there's just a little pole dipped in the water anyway. The tray does seem shallow though.
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:05 pm Post subject:
hinder.. i'm told hyper_hydro has had his account and IP blocked. There were reasons but for one he insulted both me and another forum member here. Maybe he will be back to post about ionto but hopefully he won't be abusive on what is essentially a support forum.
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