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Scoutabout
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

P.S. - This is probably my last post regarding this particular subject. I will move on to another one. I think I have said all I can pertinently say. It would be pointless for me to go on, as I believe in the addage, "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still". I believe I have reached that stage with some of you.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scoutabout wrote:
As someone who has spent years suffering from depression, anxiety and phobias, I am tired of the "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" crowd. Many of us have spent years trying to understand and battle these "demons" within ourselves, and it is hard enough without having someone wag a finger at us, especially those who have been fortunate enough not to have suffered from any of these illnesses. What really bothers me is that these same people wouldn't dream of wagging a finger at someone with diabetes (for example), telling them to "just get over it". These illnesses are just as real as diabetes and other conditions. I have done everything I can think of to bring an end to my illnesses, but now that I'm in my fifties, I have finally realized that probably the most I will be able to do is control them through the combination of medications and therapy. I have been on and off medications through the years, and I can tell you from personal experience that whenever I try to go without medications, I only get worse every time. In my case, I believe I have unfortunately inherited the biochemical makeup that makes me as I am. There are so many in my family with depression, bipolar disorder and other mental problems that I think I was doomed from the start. However, I've always had this fight in me, and will not give up. I will continue to take my meds and see a therapist to keep myself on an even keel. That's another thing - some people are so ignorant they think these medications make people "high". Forgive me, but that is just plain stupid to suggest such an idea. I do not enjoy taking these meds, and they certainly don't get me "high". The most they do is bring me up to "normal" - otherwise, I would fall into that pit again, and that always risks suicidal thoughts which could always turn into the real thing. That scares me. I'm also angry at the people suggesting the problem is "self-centeredness". No, the problem is that these are illnesses. I have these illnesses, but can continue to do many things that are very unselfish. These are not diseases of "selfishness". When was the last time some of you donated money or time to a worthy cause? I do it all the time. I always find ways to think of others and help others. If anything, the positive side of what I have been dealing with is that it has made me more sympathetic towards others. Because I have felt pain, I feel the pain of others. Let's quit treating people with SA and other illnesses and conditions as though they have a simple problem with a simple solution - that belittles people.
well said!!!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

postzerofive- i 100% agree with you, i am so happy there is someone else on this forum who has suffered with problems, but understands them from a different perspective rather than just that of their own.

this person understands that feelings 'i cant do this because i am not good enough' and the reality of 'i cannot do this because i believe i am not good enough' are exactly the same things.

i too have suffered some horribe states of mind, enough respect to you though mate because not half as bad as yours, but i 100% agree with you that the world will not stop turning. if you turn round to some one (for pure example) and say 'i wish i had more money...but i was too afraid to accept this job because it would involve to much people contact' no one will feel sorry for you, its not harsh, its reality.

i believe people only gain respect, and respect and like are two different things, those who although had all the material reasons to give up, never did.

i learned this when i picked up the phone, i had enough of feeling like shit, and i demmanded for a appointment up my GP's, i was crying my eyes out, shaking havin a panic attack etc i went up my GP's, i was 100% numb, didnt give a fuck about anything anymore, he handed me some drugs and told me to get in contact with the hospital. so i picked up my perscription and i even remember when she looked at my perscription and looked at it funny, i thought to myself 'just do ya job love, i ent gotta answer to you!'. so i took em home. i took one. then i thought to myself 'what r these going to do for me??' i didnt wanna place my self control in the hands of some doctors and some tablets. so i binned them. and havent looked back.

so take control. only you will ever truly know you 100%, underneath insecurities and a past is a person. tend to the person not the insecurites and problems and disroders. chase dreams, make money, love people, love yaself and keep healthy. thats all any of us can do. shy, confident, king or peasent. were all in the same boat.

and the comment about being self centred and that, is also true to an extent, because when u think 'oh people think this about me' your saying that person has nothing better to do than think bad things about you. which is self centred. but hey. we all do it. just put it into perspective.

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mushawah
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i love it,finally someone says wut i feel

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:19 pm Post subject:

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OK now for your telling off.

I think your post is really patronising and I think you are really thoughtless coming here with your first post with a title that clearly states you are going to upset some people.

What makes you think you have all the answers and that everyone here is in their miserable little shells as you put it. How do you know what everyone wants? Words like saying the world doesn't revolve one person. Grrr! Maybe you should consider a lot of us have a valid history that makes us this way an it takes more fixing than simple stop thinking.

If it was as simple as stop thinking about being scared of people don't you think we'd have all done it by now?

Your plan is obviously not working either and you don't have all the answers for us all.

Exactly wat i would have said

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