Joined: Dec 07, 2006 Posts: 178 Location: 44/m/miami
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:12 am Post subject:
I can't afford kids. Hell, I can't even afford myself. My opinion is people should: study, earn a degree, start a career, own a house, travel the world, save money. And then maybe a adopt a child before overpopulating the world more by having their own child. I'm currently back at phase one: trying to study and earn a degree with which I can earn real money. But with the price of health care, housing, education, etc. , I think it'll be a long time before I can afford a hamster, let alone a child.
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I don't see how any two people in this thread had the same point to begin with, so I don't know why you implied people were agreeing with you. kyle said it was selfless (you didn't) and sabbath said he can't afford kids. Did you want me to argue some more?
Although, since you brought it up...
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Your reasoning is... idk, bloodlines? Haha! That is soo funny! Laughing Personally, I could care less about carrying on the family legacy, or lack there of. And I really don't think my sister, for example, was scheming- with selfish hopes in her heart for continuing the families' gene pool- future heterosexual practices for her child when she decided to have her first. Nor was she ruminating over fantasies of longevity and propriety when she had her second. But, you know, everyone is entitled to their own theories!
Yes, I am entitled to that. No thanks to you for pointing it out in the most condescending way possible.
I didn't mean that anyone was scheming over this. It's a subconscious thing. People don't analyze MOST of their motivations beyond a very superficial level. Most people don't question why they play sports; they just do it because it's fun. Most people don't question why they they are attracted to a person, beyond a few qualities (a sense of humor, a great ass, etc.); but they don't question why those qualities are desirable. That doesn't mean that the subliminal reasons, the real reasons, aren't there.
Obviously I could be wrong about this particular reason. It's not like I know everything. But this is what my observations point to.
A lot of men are attracted to big boobs. But I don't think any men look at them and think "You know what, if we had a baby, the mammary glands in those things would be perfect for feeding a child..."
In a way it is selfish, look at those beauty pagent Moms, or football Dads who live vicariously through their children. But, not all are like that. I wouldn't have kids, even if I were married b/c I don't think it's morally right considering my physical disabilities, which may affect the child, plus I can barely function by myself.
good job it werent marie_knows best mumbo jumbo because i would of been ashamed of that arguement if that was supposed to sound like me lol. krs2snow u need to get over me love.
but anyways, i think its sad when it come to a point where you even find something evil in parenting. like what was said earlier, generally parents love their children more than life itself, their children become their life!! i think to me parenthood is about making the best out of guiding a new life on this earth in the right direction, which you as a parent feel is best for the child.
i dont see how spending nearly all your time, money, love, paitence etc into a child is selfish??? what material gain would you get out it? you get emotional gain, but that is from seeing your child happy and growing well. where as most of time parents are exhausted!!! its hard work raising kids!!!
do you have children yourself to make ur view otherwise?
Joined: Aug 30, 2007 Posts: 334 Location: south park, colorado
Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 11:10 pm Post subject:
Marie_knowsbest wrote:
good job it werent marie_knows best mumbo jumbo because i would of been ashamed of that arguement if that was supposed to sound like me lol. krs2snow u need to get over me love.
but anyways, i think its sad when it come to a point where you even find something evil in parenting. like what was said earlier, generally parents love their children more than life itself, their children become their life!! i think to me parenthood is about making the best out of guiding a new life on this earth in the right direction, which you as a parent feel is best for the child.
i dont see how spending nearly all your time, money, love, paitence etc into a child is selfish??? what material gain would you get out it? you get emotional gain, but that is from seeing your child happy and growing well. where as most of time parents are exhausted!!! its hard work raising kids!!!
do you have children yourself to make ur view otherwise?
that's an awesome post. I could not hae said it better myself..
i werent sure where u saw me say it was evil love lol , i think u mite be puttin words in my mouth dont u think??? kinda sad to hav too make up things i said just to get at me lol but sod it anyways, i'm not hear to find mates like some of u i just have an opionion... an yeh sometime i sounds ofensive but u kno that is just how i am lol. and buy the way i dont haf children but i dont kneed them to no what im talkin about lov, coz i am in trainin for a psycholigy degree an know plenty of the human brain. now get out of my face wit this bull crap mate im done with you lol.
mate....i didnt say evil love did i lol i said u put a evil spin on parenting. yes i do psychology, and yes i have no troubles in saying, from a proffesional point of view, your one negative, sad little man, who has a very warped perspective on life and the meaning of it. al u say is one liners, which half the time dont make sense, like a few people have said about ur posts on this topic, i even agree with some of what krs2snow said.
u said ur done with me, i dont even wanna start on you. ur world and my world are very different places.
open up abit, learn to love, and ull be alot happier.
Bleach, you write "I am not here to find mates like some of you, I just have an opinion".
This is interesting, the two are able to be achieved. Expression of views and friendship ARE compatible. Also I would think that a site dedicated to people that mainly suffer in the same way would be an ideal place to make friends.
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