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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it is just a case of mind over matter, I think it is alot more complex than that. Any anixety or phobia has many dimensions. For most I think it is a mixture of nature and nuture. You have to have a genetic predisposition to suffer with these conditions. However, once you know what the problem is, then the work begins. I am NOT suggesting that anyone is not working to get over their problems, joining this site is a step. Sometimes we have to take giant leaps of faith to change and improve our lives. This is so hard, but, as Sheild and Silver have proven, possible. That was their solution, not for everyone I am sure! I guess we all have to find our own way out. I do agree with the fundamentals of exposure, I believe it doesn't matter how many times we fall down, what matters is whether we get up again.

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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marie_knowsbest wrote:
and then u have people who find every excuse under the sun why this and that wont help them because they have this, was born with this, have always been like this and i could go on with more examples. but mainly just find negatives in any advice they are given.


meh when i say exposure doesnt work for me, i mean it. and u know why it doesnt work? because theres lotsa nasty people like u out there. im just being honest here Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well if being honest is being nasty in your eyes then thats your problem.

im not saying its a completely mind over matter thing, because when habbits are formed their very hard to break and can even need the help of anti depressants etc. but you need to start somewhere, and the basics is mind over matter. you need to have a frame of mind in which is going to be a platform to lay someone foundations to start getting over sa. there are people who get batter through pure mind over matter. thing is...

paitence is everything. ill break down what i mean.

mind set - positive. start being more optimisic and open minded.

feel happier in self, which will reflect back in to the world.

postive response to new behaviour - behaviour is reinforced and more likely to be repeated.

confidence boost, creating a more positve mind set

feeling more happier in self, which gets reflected back out into the world and postive responses continue.

thats a very text book way of putting it lol and yes i do know theres always other forces at play which dont make it the easyist journey.

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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just want to throw in here that I tought/think the advice I commented on is stupid, simply because it is stupid. Not because I'm so opposed to the idea of exposure. Not because I don't see some value in the ideas presented here. But because it's stupid. I'm not going to go to a nearby town and hang out in my bathing suit and then tell the cops "Hey guys! Just working on Exposure Therapy! Don't mind me!" As Sabbath commented, it has nothing to do with nothing.

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a lot of really silly exposure exercises in a therapy group I was in and it didn't help at all. Honestly I think if exposure is all it takes to cure you then you never had it that bad to begin with. Which is fine, it just won't apply to everybody. And to say that people aren't trying, don't want to try, just want sympathy etc if it doesn't work for them is pretty damned insulting.

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