Suicide not the answer? Why not?

endoflife · Newbie User Joined: Aug 25, 2006 Posts: 48

I am curious as to why everybody seems to say that suicide is not the answer.

Let me juxtapose committing suicide and not committing suicide.

Committing suicide pros:
-A final end to my miserable life, with it's sole purpose of tying me down and having it wave at me as it passes me by. Day after day.
-A final end to my miserable mental state. An ineffable state of emotionless uncaring, and yet at the same time, roller coaster swings from high to low, with each swing going less and less high, and more and more low.
-A final end to the knowledge that I will never, ever, experience the embrace of a woman; that I will never form any kind of relationship, and will remain a virgin to the very day of my natural death.
-A final end to my addiction to the internet and masturbation. Masturbation is the one thing that temporarily suppresses my sex drive; however, the amount of time it is suppressed is rapidly decreasing with each successive masturbation, and the brief feeling of semi-pleasure it causes is doing likewise.
-A final end to the parasitic lifestyle I live and the burden I place on my single mother and grandmother. I collectively owe them over $11,000 USD, and I am 17.
-A final end to the knowledge that my college career (if I go to college) will be even more suppressing and mentally demeaning than my high school career, of which I will be entering the final year of come the end of this summer.
-A final end to myself being tormented each and every day, seeing guy after guy make smalltalk and have fun with girl after girl, while knowing this will never be myself. Whoever is controlling my life wanted to make it clear to me that I am less than a fraction of a human being, living in a couples world.
-A final end to the knowledge that I would not be here right now had mankind not halted the progression of natural selection.
-The earth is severely overpopulated with humans.

Committing suicide cons:
-May cause temporary pain to the small amount of family members that care about me. But then again, it would end my parasitic attachment to them and, of course, I would not be around to feel bad about it.

Not committing suicide pros:
-Supposedly the "right" answer
-No pain caused to the ones that care about me (but they must realize I am but a leech)

Not committing suicide cons:
-Everything that suicide would solve will worsen, and more issues will develop with each grain of life that falls through the hour glass.
-I am a waste of flesh and bone.

Given this information, I have come to the conclusion that the people who say suicide is not the answer are quite simply and flatly wrong. With this I do depart.

Kien · Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:26 pm Post subject:

From an atheistic view suicide is brilliant.

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drd77 · Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:28 pm Post subject:

your fucking 17 years old dude. still a long life to live. your life is not over. thereiis still plenty of time to change your ways. committing suicide would be so pathetic.

Kien · Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:36 pm Post subject:

The younger you are the more important life is. If it's shitty all the young years then it's not worth living. And stop seeing suicide as somw thing special.

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Helyna · Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:39 pm Post subject:

Committing suicide cons:
-final end to your chances to feel anything, including better
-final end to any chance of finding a friend
-final end to any chance of making someone else happy
-final end to your ability to enjoy anything, even if it's just eating chocolate or watching a TV program or something.
-final end to your ability to make the "severely overpopulated" earth any better in any tiny way
-in fact, you'll make it worse in some small way because there are people who know you, and even if you don't think they care about you, have you thought how depressing it would be for anyone to have someone they know commit suicide? You would hurt the people close to you even more. And I care and I don't even know you
-final end to seeing anything good come out of another person
-in short, final end to all hope, as little as you think there may be, in your life.

You better still be there. You better read this. I'm not a psychiatrist. I don't know the right things to say. I can't think of everything on the spot like this. But that's what I think. Don't *****. There's got to be some hope somewhere, and don't end that. Find professional help. If you owe so much to your mother and grandmother, they surely can spend some more to give you something you really need. Nobody is a waste of a life unless he/she lets him/herself be. I mean it. Don't just give up. Please.

And if it's too late for me to post this already, I only hope that someone else reads it, and I hope it makes something better for somebody.

Kien · Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:47 pm Post subject:

It makes no sense to care about loosing things when commiting suicide. It's like if you would be worrying about things in your life before you existed. It's really the dumbest argument against suicide, that you loose stuff.

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blonderedhead · Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:49 pm Post subject:

Okay let me juxtapose it for you...

Suicide Pros
-A pain is ended. BUT a pain that can absolutely be cured. All things heal in time.

Suicide Cons
-An innocent soul is lost. A soul that could have had so much to give and contribute to this world. Because every single person has something to offer
-Life is permanently ended. A chance at happiness and love is gone forever.
-You'll never get to experience the truest of embraces from a woman who loves you with all her heart because there will be one! I am sure of it! You're only 17 right now man.

Not Commiting Suicide Pros
-Living
-A chance at love
-A chance at happiness
-No one will be devastated or hurt
-A chance to get better and growing as a human being. And becoming a better and stronger and wiser and more empathetic person because of everything you have experienced.

Not Commiting Suicide Cons
-There aren't any cons for this one...buddy! Sorry but there isn't.

People who say that suicide is not the answer are quite simply and flatly right. I am so sorry for the despair you must be experiencing at the moment. But there has got to be moments of faith and hope that you have! You just want to be happy thats all, and thats the most reasonable thing to want on Earth. And it is also the furthest thing from being impossible to achieve. It's always right there, right in front of you. Its hard to see or find sometimes, but its there. This is just a part of the disease. It shields you from seeing the hope in things and I have no idea why I'm saying this because sometimes even I find it hard to believe what I say but if I didn't believe it somewhere in my heart I wouldn't be here now. I just sincerely hope you hang in there. The world is waiting for you to get out there and make your mark on it! It must be! Why would you or anyone else for that matter have been given a life to begin with? That would just be nonsensical.

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Helyna · Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject:

Thank you, blonderedhead. That's the sort of thing I was trying to say. Remember: suicide is FINAL. Depression isn't, no matter how endless it feels right now.

ljwwriter · Intermediate User Joined: Oct 31, 2007 Posts: 215

I guess you may as well stick life out. Will it really get better as people say? Who knows. I've always thought of it as just something we tell ourselves to keep from leaping off bridges when the true pointlessness of existence becomes so overwhelmingly clear.
I've weighed the pros and cons of suicide in my own head, and neither side looks better to me. It won't be some glorious end to one's pain because it will be nothingness. But I'm hardly a believer that something is always better than nothing.

I've found that life is little more than remaining hopeful that someday things will be better. Clinging to that hope is all that keeps most of us alive, even if it is futile.

Carstuar · Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:09 pm Post subject: