Is life worth it?

Roads · Newbie User Joined: Jun 15, 2008 Posts: 14

SocialButterSlip, if I could ask, why hang on? A lot of people tell me that, and I don't really understand the reason?

Volaju · Newbie User Joined: Jun 07, 2008 Posts: 21

I can relate, having one succesfull relationship ,even if it's months can be a sign (for yourself) that there is hope or whatever. But being denied everything even when you are fighting can get tiresome..and then you end up like yourself saying :"what am i fighting for?"

Holding on responses are bullshit, and are only said when no one really knows the answer. The problem is, one answer can't be right for everyone..some lives are really sh1t and it does not matter if you fight. Free Will? Only an illusion, even if you meet someone the social phobia or Apd that defines you will make it harder to get anyone= free will?

Hardly, Some will not succeed..it happens man and others will. I've said the same in another (suicide) thread, it's all blind chance.

So now my real answer, is life worth it? From my point of view, it is not. Give me the choice to never been born, i would've taken in a sec...Consciousness between two oblivions is not a big deal and ultimately like i said before, it won't matter what you do here..suffer more and stay alive and see what happens..or stop playing 21 and cash out.

(disclaimer: in no way i'm recommending suicide, only that i'm pro-choice)

phoenix1 · Intermediate User Joined: Oct 27, 2006 Posts: 128

Hi roads,

I've felt that way many times. What's helped me over the years is to stop trying to be normal or like everyone else. I've come to accept that I've very different from most people. Physically, mentally and in every way possible. Being different does not mean you are have to be isolated or alone..you really just have to be more creative. Think of it as a challenge...be it a difficult one, but such is life anyway. Maybe instead of trying to go the 'cool' standard dating route thats reserved for the spectacularly ordinary, try finding people through interest specific clubs like music or whatever other interests you have. Maybe try connecting to more people online. There are plenty of online meeting and dating type sites that are becoming more normal than real life dating. The point is that you don't have to be like everyone else, you don't have to date like everyone else, and you certainly don't have to feel bad if you choose your own wacky path to life in your own way.

cool-un-cool · Newbie User Joined: Jun 17, 2008 Posts: 7

I can't speak for your case, but let me tell you what pathetic really is. I'm 21, never had a female ever remotely interested in me, I am a cripple, girls have asked me if I am dead from the waist down, I stay in my apartment 24/7 and live with my mother, never had a job, have TERRIBLE acne, and at this point just generally don't give a shit about anything. I've had painful, humiliating surgeries since I was a child, and have no idea what success is, and I am known as "the human fuck up."

phoenix1 · Intermediate User Joined: Oct 27, 2006 Posts: 128

Double post.

SunnySun · Newbie User Joined: Jun 16, 2008 Posts: 13

I know what feeling worthless is like. We really are responsible for our own life. We have to work at not letting other people get us down. It's how we deal with people's comment that helps us deal with life better. It's not perfect, and there are jerks out there to even the nicest people. The key is not to let those jerks the big picture of life.

If you have wanted to attend college, why not go and take one or a few classes? The key is to just start. If there's nothing better to do, but you have some passion for college, just go.

You can take classes online if you want, but my concern is that it'll leave you stuck at home. Although, it's better than nothing. It'll give you a purpose to live for.

You should read books like Feel the Fear and Do it Anyway or The Road Less Traveled or such books and it might give you a bit of a nudge to help you change your life.

If you can or when you can, move out on your own. Make goals. I know they are not easy to do, but it'll give you some purpose to your life. Maybe volunteer?

If you do exercise, why not work at the gym? You can get a short term certificate on weight training, etc. that can get you working at the gym.

It's true that we all need to stop being like everyone else. It sucks when people tell me I am too quiet. I talk when there's something of value to talk about, and I don't feel that I need to talk to them constantly. I feel forced when I confuse myself with what other people think I should do. When I am myself, it's better. If I think I need to change something, then it's my problem to consider changing that. It's not perfect, but I try to be myself because people don't know exactly what the other person is feeling like.

If therapy is not working, I would advice changing therapists.

Roads · Newbie User Joined: Jun 15, 2008 Posts: 14

I attend a state university. I live on my own. I workout in a gym.

I've actually read Feel the Fear and Do it Anyway, and I can't really say it had a big impact on me.

My problem is not social anxiety, my problem is not inability to meet or communicate with people. The problem is those persons interest in me. Specifically girls. Girls just don't like me, and I don't know what to do about it. I'm a good looking guy, intelligent, talented, independent, educated. But girls are not interested in me "in that way". I have no problem talking to them, honestly. they just don't like me.

personally, I believe a lot of that stems from my height(5'7"). I know how important height of a man is to women, and I know I don't meet the bare minimum for a huge majority of girls out there.

I know that I would feel ALOT better about my life if just one girl, even one that wasnt that attractive, would show some interest in me.

btw, therapy doesnt work because therapy is worthless, it accomplishes nothing. I've gone through 6 therapists in the last 3 years, and most of them were content with trying to trick me into accepting my life for what it is and that its "okay". I'm tired of being on anti depressants and "forced" to feel happy when its NOT okay for someone to be happy in this kind of situation.

I do have goals for myself. I have a lot of goals related to fitness, my education, etc etc. but I don't feel accomplishing those goals means anything to me. I don't feel any satisfaction in accomplishing education or career goals, and frankly, none of it means anything to me because I'm just traveling through life all alone. And even with the goals, I don't feel my life has a "purpose" without some form of female companionship.

Danfalc · Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:53 pm Post subject:

toothpastekisses · Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:41 pm Post subject:

In a word, YES. Life is totally worth every ounce of happiness, loneliness and angst. Why? Because ALL of us put on this earth should be grateful for being alive and for beingnable to experience all the wonders of human existence. Lol. Absolutely nobody is "perfect", we are all flawed in some way and go through varying amounts of shit during our prescious lifetimes. You don't need to rely on God or religion to get you through stuff...just believe in yourself and be safe in the knowledge that one day, everything will fall into place and things will be better, 'cause there's really no telling what the future holds is there?

Danfalc · Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:28 am Post subject: