Joined: Apr 28, 2008 Posts: 39 Location: in the center of the moon that glides above Detroit, Michigan
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:19 am Post subject:
dpr wrote:
Wow that is so well said. I totally relate to all of that. Do we both feel this way because of SP? Or are we just the same "type" of people, I wonder? Are we destined to be this way?
You've brought up some interesting questions there, dpr. For the most part, I believe that its safe to assume that SP has shaped our characters into what they are now(or perhaps these aren't even our true selves, they may just be our protective masks) and as a result we all(socially anxious people that is) just may be the same type of person. Well I do think that people are all actually different from each other but I also believe that people can be the same(in certain ways).
Sometimes I do believe in destiny, fate, predetermination, or whatever you want to name it.I mean, there are children who's mental capacity seems perhaps decades ahead of their time, for example. In this case, it truly appears as if they were "destined" to be genius' in the art of academics. But like I said previously, I was once a happy, outgoing sort of kid and I changed to the exact opposite. In that case, I wouldn't blame fate but rather the types of attitudes and beliefs I chose, perhaps unconsciously, to serve as armor against my seeming negative circumstances. So in a way, I believe we can make our own decisions or somebody will make them for us.
And I often wonder why many of us with SP regard people without SP(in other words, people who are socially skilled ) to be absolutely "normal" and consider ourselves to be extremely "abnormal"? Probably because thee majority has set up some standards on which we are expected to abide by. Has it ever occurred to the ignorant majority that we might just be "different" from them, like nonconformists. Why should we have to be "fake" to live up to their self-righteous standards? I bet even extroverts have to stomach that crap! Its like this all over the globe, I'm sure.
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Lonely now, as I always was, I cry the lonely cry of a wolf. -By Nadine Mondrae,age 13
Joined: May 29, 2008 Posts: 67 Location: Illinois, USA
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:17 am Post subject:
My whole life is an act, actually a I'd call it a lie. But i guess it's an act, but one I've been putting on so long I don't even know I'm doing it. Whenever I'm around people I don't let my real self out and pretend to like everybody and agree with what everyone says and try not to give them any reason to dislike me. I agree with everything, if someone asks me if I like such and such band or movie I just say "yeah" or "I don't know". Even though inside I'm dying to tell them what I really think, but I'm too much of a pussy. If I really said what was on my mind everyone would hate my guts.
Joined: Apr 28, 2008 Posts: 39 Location: in the center of the moon that glides above Detroit, Michigan
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:39 am Post subject:
zootdroop wrote:
My whole life is an act, actually a I'd call it a lie. But i guess it's an act, but one I've been putting on so long I don't even know I'm doing it. Whenever I'm around people I don't let my real self out and pretend to like everybody and agree with what everyone says and try not to give them any reason to dislike me. I agree with everything, if someone asks me if I like such and such band or movie I just say "yeah" or "I don't know". Even though inside I'm dying to tell them what I really think, but I'm too much of a pussy. If I really said what was on my mind everyone would hate my guts.
Yeah it really sucks that you are burdened with the idea that you must "act out" your feeling in order to gain approval and avoid rejection. This is simply a "defense mechanism" of yours. You are "defending" yourself against possible ridicule from others who think far differently than you do. I find it very heart breaking that the folks you are around can't even "see" you for who you truly are. And its probably best they didn't or else they might refuse you. I've felt that way for years(probably for a decade). And this is why I chose to be alone(with the exception that my bro is my only friend in person ).
_________________ The Lone Wolf's Cry
Lonely now, as I always was, I cry the lonely cry of a wolf. -By Nadine Mondrae,age 13
You've brought up some interesting questions there, dpr. For the most part, I believe that its safe to assume that SP has shaped our characters into what they are now(or perhaps these aren't even our true selves, they may just be our protective masks) and as a result we all(socially anxious people that is) just may be the same type of person. Well I do think that people are all actually different from each other but I also believe that people can be the same(in certain ways).
Sometimes I do believe in destiny, fate, predetermination, or whatever you want to name it.I mean, there are children who's mental capacity seems perhaps decades ahead of their time, for example. In this case, it truly appears as if they were "destined" to be genius' in the art of academics. But like I said previously, I was once a happy, outgoing sort of kid and I changed to the exact opposite. In that case, I wouldn't blame fate but rather the types of attitudes and beliefs I chose, perhaps unconsciously, to serve as armor against my seeming negative circumstances. So in a way, I believe we can make our own decisions or somebody will make them for us.
And I often wonder why many of us with SP regard people without SP(in other words, people who are socially skilled ) to be absolutely "normal" and consider ourselves to be extremely "abnormal"? Probably because thee majority has set up some standards on which we are expected to abide by. Has it ever occurred to the ignorant majority that we might just be "different" from them, like nonconformists. Why should we have to be "fake" to live up to their self-righteous standards? I bet even extroverts have to stomach that crap! Its like this all over the globe, I'm sure.
Yeah that's true, very good points Wolfy! And that's the thing... I often wonder if I'm the only one in the world who thinks it's stupid that there is a law against nudity. Like if I walked to the store right now completely naked, I would be arrested. How totally ridiculous and fascist is that, yet this is the world we live in? Another rule the majority has set us up with to abide by, though none of us were consulted. I could never bring things like this up to my co-workers or acquaintances as I'm sure the idiocy would stream out. I imagine males and females alike would bring up rape, as if seeing a naked woman causes men to rape them, or they would say something pseudo-conclusive like, "That's just the way the world is," or whatever. As a matter of fact, I sometimes think laws in general are stupid. They're clearly not working. There's a law against murder where I live and people still get murdered every day! wow this is going way into left field...
I guess my point was that I *do* regard these happy-go-lucky, straight-laced, i-can-get-along-with-anybody type of people as ABnormal and myself as... well not normal but more normal than them at least... I have contempt for them and not because I'm jealous of their social skills but because I honestly think they are insanely stupid. But it doesn't help my situation to regard them in this way. It just makes things worse. But what can I do? How can I choose to interact with people I hate? With people who bore me?
I have no idea how to interact with people like this, and I'm still trying to decide if I want to.
I sometimes think that those child prodigies -- like kids who can play grade 10 piano stuff at six years old -- are proof of reincarnation. But what do I know? lol
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) to be absolutely "normal" and consider ourselves to be extremely "abnormal"? Probably because thee majority has set up some standards on which we are expected to abide by. Has it ever occurred to the ignorant majority that we might just be "different" from them, like nonconformists. Why should we have to be "fake" to live up to their self-righteous standards?
I bet even extroverts have to stomach that crap! Its like this all over the globe, I'm sure.
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