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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:31 pm Post subject:
I guess that's what makes me completely different then. I don't make the mitakes, I am defective in the first place. Everyone does the mistakes for me. I don't talk responsibility for other peoples actions and they are generally all out to emotionally hurt me. Thing is, I don't know if this is real or not. I'm pretty much the opposite from anger, I feel very hurt most of the time. Don't think I give a damn about pride either.
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:47 pm Post subject:
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No no no no... sorry guys but i forgot to explain myself. What I mean is what link does SA have with pride, not anger.
mmm, maybe i'm speaking for myself, i've heard a couple of others agree before but then again it's different for everyone, i think SA and pride go hand and hand in that we assume that people will look at us and judge us, and negative things will come from it. this hits on our self-esteem and our pride (i believe). erg can't explain it, i'll give an example:
you have to give a speech
you may not want because of SA/SP
part of that fear is a fear that people will be able to tell that you're afraid (this might be where i'm speaking for myself)
Pride: at this point it's easy to get frustrated because you feel so socially handicapped but at the same time you see the person you are inside and feel that you should be as capable as everyone else. who is anyone to judge you and pick you apart like we're all afraid they will?
i'm sure this is flawed, it was harder than i thought to explain the relationship but it's just how i find things connecting up in my brain. i hope that made sense
Pride: at this point it's easy to get frustrated because you feel so socially handicapped but at the same time you see the person you are inside and feel that you should be as capable as everyone else. who is anyone to judge you and pick you apart like we're all afraid they will?
thats what i have all the time, i get so angry that i cant do things that i know that i have the intelligence, or the interest to do..but i cant because of the belief that people watch me. I get such an intense..uncontrollable thrust of pride that can reduce me to tears, or anger or some stupid action because of it.
Its like i did this maths test recently..now im not good at maths but i try...there was this topic i understood and revised for, but i got 52% in the test, i guess i panicked or something. Anyway, i was annoyed at myself, but i knew that i understood the topic, but my teacher literally screamed at me for not trying and being moody and obstructive (i say nothnig during class at all) and she took completely no notice that i had done over 3weeks worht of the topic in lessons getting every question right..
my pride took over and i couldnt stand it, i couldnt understand why she picked on me and hated me so much. i was stupid. i walked out of class, then went to the toilets to cry.
thats pride, and thats SA interlinked.
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:14 pm Post subject:
I have a lot of anger directed my father and situation the world is in. As for what the world is going through right now i cannot change so i just try to ignore it as much as possible and hope for the best the the future.
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thats what i have all the time, i get so angry that i cant do things that i know that i have the intelligence, or the interest to do..but i cant because of the belief that people watch me. I get such an intense..uncontrollable thrust of pride that can reduce me to tears, or anger or some stupid action because of it.
Its like i did this maths test recently..now im not good at maths but i try...there was this topic i understood and revised for, but i got 52% in the test, i guess i panicked or something. Anyway, i was annoyed at myself, but i knew that i understood the topic, but my teacher literally screamed at me for not trying and being moody and obstructive (i say nothnig during class at all) and she took completely no notice that i had done over 3weeks worht of the topic in lessons getting every question right..
my pride took over and i couldnt stand it, i couldnt understand why she picked on me and hated me so much. i was stupid. i walked out of class, then went to the toilets to cry.
thats pride, and thats SA interlinked.
It's not normal for your teacher to say that; that's really prejudiced.. That is really the worst thing can happen to a student to stop him from learning.
I'm quite the opposite.. Fred What grade are you in? As far as I know grade 10 math _is_ confusing so far, especially with the trigonometry and graphing lines, but our tests had been really easy. At least I find it easy. I do get bad marks tho. Well Not in maths, but in a course we have called Communications - a course dedicated to TALKING. There's frequent speeches, presentations where you go up and present to the whole class.. But anyhow, I think the most dangerous thing SP can do that makes you fail is, once you get 1 bad mark, you'll get really frustrated and you'd tell yourself "I suck in that subject". And then you're pretty much doomed. You can't let 1 bad mark ruin everything.
Okay I'm probably wandering off topic now.
But the key to this thing is to consciously accept your mistakes, this is what my psych told me. Other people makes mistakes all the time; we're human beings too so why can't we make mistakes. We deserve to do so.
It's going to really help if you think like that. And that's how I managed to get above 70 percent in the Communications course.
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:27 pm Post subject:
i feel ya fredscarecrow, sometimes i wonder why some teachers even became teachers at all. i've had something similar happen to me like that. alot of the time i feel like i wish i had said more in the situation to stand up for myself but when i start feeling anxious, i just can't, like my body can only function half as well as usual.
i was just at the dentist and all of a sudden there were alot of people in the room for whatever reason and it was time for me to leave and as i was getting out of the chair, i almost lost my balance, just because i was trying so hard NOT to fall.
i also relate to you seek, me and my dad have always had problems, just because we've grow up in two completely different ways (he grew up in old south, i'm more contemporary obviously). unfortunately there's nothing anyone can do about the world (would be kind of scarey if we all had that ability ) as for ignoring it, haha i hope you're better at it than i am!
It's not normal for your teacher to say that; that's really prejudiced.. That is really the worst thing can happen to a student to stop him from learning.
I'm quite the opposite.. Fred What grade are you in? As far as I know grade 10 math _is_ confusing so far, especially with the trigonometry and graphing lines, but our tests had been really easy. At least I find it easy. I do get bad marks tho. Well Not in maths, but in a course we have called Communications - a course dedicated to TALKING. There's frequent speeches, presentations where you go up and present to the whole class.. But anyhow, I think the most dangerous thing SP can do that makes you fail is, once you get 1 bad mark, you'll get really frustrated and you'd tell yourself "I suck in that subject". And then you're pretty much doomed. You can't let 1 bad mark ruin everything.
Okay I'm probably wandering off topic now.
But the key to this thing is to consciously accept your mistakes, this is what my psych told me. Other people makes mistakes all the time; we're human beings too so why can't we make mistakes. We deserve to do so.
It's going to really help if you think like that. And that's how I managed to get above 70 percent in the Communications course.
im 15..year 10 over here..yeh shes quite a..wierd teacher. she has a very short temper and shes only just learnt my name..but yeh..my family is great at maths but im not..and i take critism really badly..but yeh, as chilling_echo says sa and pirde really are interlinked, and can have rather..bad effects. Im certainly glad i dont have communications lessons..sound horrible!! but im doing my best with stuff at the moment and im getting better at talking in class.
ugh, i hate going to the dentist chilling_echo..especially sitting in the chair with the dentist staring at you and asking if youve had any problems with your teeth..cant deal with it.lol
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Nobody hears above this noise
Always a risk when you try and believe
I know there's so much more than me
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) as for ignoring it, haha i hope you're better at it than i am! 