Menu
· Home
· What is it?
· The Symptoms
· Treatment
· Diagnostic
· Causes
 
· Forums
· PhotoAlbum
· Chat
· Noticeboard
· Personal Stories
· Web Links
· Surveys
· Register
· Feedback
Login/Registration

Anonymous 140 guests
Members 38 members

Register!
Get instant access to our mini
messenger and post
comments on the forum.
Click here!

Nickname

Password

Survey
Who do you live with?

I live Alone
With my parents
With my partner
With my housemates
Other



Results
Polls

Votes: 229
Comments: 112
Last Personal Stories
To give hope (Chris)
Why not you? (FEIBUMBLEBEE)
Understanding Social Phobia (Live another Day)
Terrified of everything (chelsea x)
therapy matters (needed help)
Overcoming and Recovering "Social Phobia" (Jessica)
Held back by Fear (Cass)
Social Phobia World :: View topic - The world revolves around me.
  Forum FAQForum FAQ    SearchSearch     ProfileProfile    Private messagesPrivate messages   Log inLog in 
The world revolves around me.

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Social Phobia World Forum Index -> Shyness Forum
Author Message
Helyna
Expert User
Expert User


Joined: May 24, 2008
Posts: 529
Location: Florida

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:08 pm    Post subject: The world revolves around me. Reply with quote

Quote:
"Shyness has a strange element of narcissism, a belief that how we look, how we perform, is truly important to other people."
-André Dubus, Broken Vessels, 1991


It's true. It's so true. Selfishness is the root of all my problems. Really!

Everyone is not watching me at every opportunity.
Everyone is not watching my parents (or friends, brother, or anyone else who can embarrass me).
Everyone is not listening to me.
Everyone is not listening to my parents.
I am not the most important part of most people's day.
I am not going to forever live in the memories of everyone I run across.
Most people I know do not think about me every day.
I am not the only one who asks a given person for help or who is difficult to help.
Everyone does not expect me to be perfect.
The world is not going to explode if I make a mistake.
Everyone does not have to like me.
It is impossible for everyone to like me.
THE WORLD DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND ME.
Etc, etc, etc.


_________________
"Usually a person has more faith in their fear than faith in their future."
-Doug Firebaugh

http://www.socialphobialife.com/ - a new forum, sign up and help start a new community!
Back to top
View user's profile ::
Chod77
Intermediate User
Intermediate User


Joined: Jun 02, 2008
Posts: 157
Location: Florida, United States

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea I guess I'm pretty selfish. I try really hard not to be. My dad called me a narcissist the other day. I was kinda shocked because I'm not vain, but I know that he meant I was selfish.


_________________
"When I die I'll go to heaven because I've spent my time in hell."
Back to top
View user's profile ::
playthepsychedelic
Newbie User
Newbie User


Joined: Aug 29, 2008
Posts: 90

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry, I don't get the link with SA Embarassed

Back to top
View user's profile ::
playthepsychedelic
Newbie User
Newbie User


Joined: Aug 29, 2008
Posts: 90

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry, I don't get the link with SA Embarassed

Back to top
View user's profile ::
DannieCleo
Newbie User
Newbie User


Joined: Aug 20, 2008
Posts: 40
Location: London. England

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the link with SA is that the very essence of SA is being overly concerned with what people think of us when in reality, as the thread starter stated, most people don't care enough about us to think about us as nuch as we think they do.

But when your SA/AvPD is deeply ingrained its difficult to take account of that fact, esp. during stress provoking times.

for me and i'm sure lots of others its a lil different. I work in a gossipy atmosphere whereby the most innocuous of actions is disected and twisted to somehow make it a negative thing and gossipped and speculated about until the next innocuous little thing.

so its hard for me (and i'm sure others who work in similar envorinments) to really hold with the mantra that no one cares about every little thing i do.


_________________
You are not defined by other peoples' opinions of you.
Back to top
View user's profile ::
floridateen18
Newbie User
Newbie User


Joined: Jun 25, 2007
Posts: 13

PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your affirmations are true, yes, however, your sub-conscious mind does not register the word "not".

So when a person says anything like " I am not the center of attention" to themselves, their sub-conscious mind hears " I am the center of attention"

Your sub-concious mind doesnt respond to not, or negative things, ie.
"I do not want to be shy" will turn into " I want to be shy"

So what is the solution to fix this?

The key is the choice of wording. If I take the same statement i used above and change it to a positive affirmation, this is the result.

" I want to be more social"

Your sub-conscious mind will work with you instead of against you if you re-word your affirmations, and trust me, you want your sub-conscious mind on your side, for it holds the key to everyones deepests, darkest secrets that reside in them, even if they are not aware of it.

Does this sound too farfectched?

It may seem odd, but there are many books written about what I am explaining, and you could even google "sub-concious mind" and "self- programming" together and confirm what I say is true.

I hope that this helps your affirmations give a more positive note, and I feel that if you change their word structure around and tweek it, you will have AMAZING results.

Back to top
View user's profile ::
Helyna
Expert User
Expert User


Joined: May 24, 2008
Posts: 529
Location: Florida

PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

floridateen18: Really?! Where did you learn this? Why does it work that way? I find this really exciting for some reason. I'm going to try it for a while and see if I can get my thoughts to change. Thanks!


_________________
"Usually a person has more faith in their fear than faith in their future."
-Doug Firebaugh

http://www.socialphobialife.com/ - a new forum, sign up and help start a new community!
Back to top
View user's profile ::
Slothrop
Newbie User
Newbie User


Joined: Sep 21, 2008
Posts: 76
Location: Prolixville, Prolixistan

PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed. I realized this some years ago and have been better off since then. It can be a tough realization to put into practice, but it definitely helps.

I prefer the term "self-absorbed" over "selfish" or "narcissistic", as the latter two have misleading connotations. We become absorbed in our own thoughts, which serve to insulate us from reality.

Consider all the times where you "know" that people are thinking negatively about you; the times where you feel like someone looks down on you even though they haven't come right out and said it.

Now think about the arrogance and presumption involved in thinking you know what someone else is thinking. Think about how it's wrong for you to project your own feelings about yourself onto them. That's what's really happening. You obviously can't read their mind, and yet you feel so certain about what they're thinking—why is that?

We imagine that other people can see our thoughts, our feelings, our awful secrets, our past mistakes, our failures; likewise, we imagine that we can see that in other people—we think we know their thoughts, and since we don't see awfulness like our own in them, we assume they don't have it, and that they're better people. "Normal" people.

The truth is that we really can't see into people, and they can't see into us, and that we all have inner problems of one kind or another. And it isn't limited to social anxiety: everybody is bound by the limitation. All we have to go by is communication, the rest is self-indulgent guesswork that ought to be avoided as much as possible.

Back to top
View user's profile ::
Psychedelicious
Expert User
Expert User


Joined: Dec 22, 2007
Posts: 832
Location: California

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

People are selfish, they just are. People with social phobia are in a way obsessed with themselves and all their actions, and it's mostly what we think about. We however don't they we are the greatest things on this earth, usually quite the opposite. I just don't understand how it can be narcissism. Sure I'm pretty obsessed with myself and everything that's wrong, but I am sure as hell not in love with myself.

Back to top
View user's profile ::
Jellybeans
Newbie User
Newbie User


Joined: Sep 02, 2008
Posts: 61

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

floridateen18 wrote:
Your affirmations are true, yes, however, your sub-conscious mind does not register the word "not".

So when a person says anything like " I am not the center of attention" to themselves, their sub-conscious mind hears " I am the center of attention"

Your sub-concious mind doesnt respond to not, or negative things, ie.
"I do not want to be shy" will turn into " I want to be shy"

So what is the solution to fix this?

The key is the choice of wording. If I take the same statement i used above and change it to a positive affirmation, this is the result.

" I want to be more social"

Your sub-conscious mind will work with you instead of against you if you re-word your affirmations, and trust me, you want your sub-conscious mind on your side, for it holds the key to everyones deepests, darkest secrets that reside in them, even if they are not aware of it.

Does this sound too farfectched?

It may seem odd, but there are many books written about what I am explaining, and you could even google "sub-concious mind" and "self- programming" together and confirm what I say is true.

I hope that this helps your affirmations give a more positive note, and I feel that if you change their word structure around and tweek it, you will have AMAZING results.


i think you're trying to say something more about what you FOCUS on, right? your mind doesn't compute everything in words, it's more of what your focus and attention is divided unto. therefore, if you choose something more interesting/exciting/important to think about, you won't even notice your SA as much... hence, not focusing so much on your SA. and no matter if it's positive or negative, any type of thinking ABOUT your SA will trigger your SA.

...or so says the secret.


_________________
"I gotta have my jellybeans"

-Jellybeans
Back to top
View user's profile ::
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Social Phobia World Forum Index -> Shyness Forum All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

Powered by phpBB 2.0.10 © 2001 phpBB Group
phpBB port v2.1 based on Tom Nitzschner's phpbb2.0.6 upgraded to phpBB 2.0.4 standalone was developed and tested by:
ArtificialIntel, ChatServ, mikem,
sixonetonoffun and Paul Laudanski (aka Zhen-Xjell).

Version 2.1 by Nuke Cops © 2003 http://www.nukecops.com

Forums ©

Copyright © 2007 by Social Phobia World.com. All Rights Reserved.