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BiGz
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:49 pm    Post subject: Suposed cure? Anyone seen or try this? Reply with quote

hi guys I'm a newbie here and obviously suffer from hyperhidrosis. Now I came across this website claiming to have a cure http://www.anti-sweat.com/index.html

Problem I have with this site is that it has not made its clinical trials made available as yet, if in deed they have any trials. I sent them a msg asking when to expect the clinical trials to be made available and they said somtime towards the end of this year.

I'm just wondering if anyone has come across this site before and what are your thoughts?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a short discussion about it

http://www.esfbchannel.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1077

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Pinker, also do you know where theres a discussion on sage? As I've been giving that a go and would like to see how others have been using an finding it.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a short topic I found, there may be some others somewhere

http://www.esfbchannel.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=775&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=sage


You might find this article useful as well

http://www.sweatsolutions.org/SweatSolutions/Article.asp?ArticleCode=62908455&EditionCode=29354836

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:30 pm    Post subject: Using Sage Tea for treaments Reply with quote

Pinker wrote:
Here's a short topic I found, there may be some others somewhere

http://www.esfbchannel.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=775&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=sage


You might find this article useful as well

http://www.sweatsolutions.org/SweatSolutions/Article.asp?ArticleCode=62908455&EditionCode=29354836


I am wondering after reading this info about the sage tea, with them saying here to use it topically.... only in a tea solution, if you could use the tea for the ion machines? Maybe getting a double whammy?? Has anyone tried that, or could that change the water compound too much for it to work?

I am not a chemist but I am trying to read lots here and other HH postings to help my 9 year old daughter who had the surgery to clip the nerves then only had about a 50% reduction to her hands. This made her feet take on the new need for the perspiration to exit moreso there. I think we had a good surgeon however, who explained most things well and was conservative on how many nerves to cut or not, so we don't have the after math symptoms, like those who go to doctors who cut lots of nerves and leave people with lots of other dissorders.

cejela... a newbie here.

also made our own ion.... machine from reading a post how to...
(word is too long for me to spell : > )

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Using Sage Tea for treaments Reply with quote

cejela wrote:
Pinker wrote:
Here's a short topic I found, there may be some others somewhere

http://www.esfbchannel.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=775&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=sage


You might find this article useful as well

http://www.sweatsolutions.org/SweatSolutions/Article.asp?ArticleCode=62908455&EditionCode=29354836


I am wondering after reading this info about the sage tea, with them saying here to use it topically.... only in a tea solution, if you could use the tea for the ion machines? Maybe getting a double whammy?? Has anyone tried that, or could that change the water compound too much for it to work?

I am not a chemist but I am trying to read lots here and other HH postings to help my 9 year old daughter who had the surgery to clip the nerves then only had about a 50% reduction to her hands. This made her feet take on the new need for the perspiration to exit moreso there. I think we had a good surgeon however, who explained most things well and was conservative on how many nerves to cut or not, so we don't have the after math symptoms, like those who go to doctors who cut lots of nerves and leave people with lots of other dissorders.

cejela... a newbie here.

also made our own ion.... machine from reading a post how to...
(word is too long for me to spell : > )


Oh so you mean to administer a sage tea solution by iontophoresis? Hehe that could be worth a try to see what happens, i've never heard of it being tested before.

Has your daughter ever tried iontophoresis treatment before? Did you say you made your own machine from scratch?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:50 pm    Post subject: Making machine for iontophoresis treatment Reply with quote

I did make a iontophoresis treatment machine from some directions I took from another HH group. It was a little hard to decipher at first but did work things out pretty well. It was from someone who said he was going to use it to see if would work for him..the process ...before he would buy one of the machines. He posted saying that after a week or 2 of 20 minute treatments it worked and he is using it once weekly from that. It is a simple way and cheap way to make all of the issues I've read about with hand and feet sizes, emersing fully or partially, battery issues and so on not be an issue, because you make it to your own needs. But we have only used it for 5 treatments on the hands alone and need to do more, so I too would like to see if this one works. If so I am making 2 more containers for her feet and do all at once.

I will keep you posted if you want to know how it works for us.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cejela, it´s nice of you to post that you made a iontophoresis device. Can you please post what exactly you have used to make such a device?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:45 pm    Post subject: How to Make iontophoresis treatment machine Reply with quote

I will make this as simple as possible, but how can I send a picture to show it?


This is what you need:
2 Tin pie pans or any other shaped tin pan.
2 Alligator clips from Radio Shack that have the clips on each end of the wire. (they come in a bag of 4 which is good if you want to make more of these for your feet or hands)

Optional is 2 plastic containers (shoe box size) to place my 4 x 9 tin pans in to keep water in a contained area, if it spilled out of tins.

2 pack 9 volt battery

The bottom line is to get 2 tin plates used for cooking pie or something in. I used the 4 by 9 tins that you can use for making breads in so that my daughter's hands and or feet could be submerged easily, because I have read that some people think that is better to get the entire hand or foot submerged into the bath to stop sweating.

I filled the tin pans with water to submerge her hands in, also put washcloths on the bottom to keep her skin from touching tin.

I took the 2 alligator clips and put one clip on a Positive + side of the battery.then took that clip and clipped it on one of the pan's edges. Took another aligator clip and clipped it to the same battery on the negative side. I clipped them around the positive and negative posts instead of making them hang on barely by trying to do it another way.

I clipped the positive wire clip on one tin pan, after I place the pan (with water inside it) into plastic container used to keep the water and bathing plate contained.


I Put the negative alligator clip that was clipped to the same 9 volt battery and clipped it on the other tin pan that was also filled with water to amerce her hand in. (also placed in a plastic container to catch any spill overs)

I read that the edges of the water line can tingle, so I put sweat bands on her wrists to keep that from irritating her there.
After 10 minutes I read you need to take the hands and switch them to the opposite bath to make sure they both get the same positive charge timeline. Which was another 10 minutes. I chose to move the clips to make it easy. But had her take her hands out, because if you are in the water when putting on the last clip. Pow...shock up the arm. My BAD!
The bath time was 20 minutes total.

Now we have been doing this for 5 days and we still don't know if it will work. I read you can up the voltages by putting more battery cables on with other batteries on the same tin pan. I know that would be too strong for her. Any scrapes and cuts already are irritated and can hurt in the water. I used that liquid bandaide to help with that too before we submerge her hands. She is only 9 and I try to pamper her the best I can.

That is the recipe ... I am praying it will work.

Total cost was 10 bucks! : )

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cejela you humiliate cheap guys Razz


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