Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:26 pm Post subject: Cheap??
I'd rather call it thrifty.... and a motto for my life, which is:
IF THERE IS A WILL THERE IS A WAY!
I had a hard time trying to find a way to get a machine so found the posting how to make one...went shopping to my local Radio Shack, grociery story and VOILA... are own Ion..... machine !
If you notice I wrote a new topic about is there known side effects to these contraptions next!
That is interesting regarding the sage. As I drink sage tea and use it externally. Problem is I've never been able to find out how long it should be externally applied for with each session. I'm interested in using a iontophoresis machine but I also get underarm sweat so I've been hoping to find somthing that will kill 2 birds (in my case 3-4) with 1 stone.
I normally just pick up some sage in my hands an rub it under my arms an into my hands and leave for a few mintues. Probably not long enough. I believe the idea of applying externally is to get it into the pours so I can only imagine that using the iontophoresis machine would only help the process along.
Bigz as long as we havenīt got a clue of what is the working agent in sage, if there is one, noone will ever be able to tell you if iontophoresis might work. Dr Kavanagh had problems transporting Botox by iontophoresis maybe because itīs not sufficiently polarized. I think the reason why aluminium and iron ions are transported by iontophoresis is precisely because they are sufficiently aggressive (+3)
Can everybody please stop talking about a "cure" unless that is actually what weīre talking about? Is it my dictionary or the way I interpret it which has a flaw? A CURE means as far as I understand that the problem will not occur again or am I wrong?
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:48 pm Post subject: who is calling this a cure?
Hyper-Hydro,
I am not sure that anyone is calling the sage a cure? Or are you talking to someone else about the "cure" word. ...
But bought some incase some day I get desperate or curious to see if it does something.
I better go back again and see how to make that tea. I bought the plants to grow...but not sure if it has to be dried first too?
You sound like a chemist or someone familiar with these topics?
My daughter's hands are seeming dryer she said. I need to syncranize feet now to keep from having our baths mixed up. I did not want to torture her all at once. Do you know if you do the feet and hands all at once if you first do one side of the body, then the other, or all at once? I read different approaches and do not know if there is a scientific need to do one way or the other? Thanks!
Well Hyper-Hydro I certainly am not expecting to find a cure, but just hoping to find somthing in which I can make life more managable like everybody else with HH.
Ok well if your sweat problem is concerning your hands, I can vouch for iontophoresis as a very effective treatment to control it. Pinker and I both have positive experiences with different iontophoresis devices. Please disregard Cejala, the guy seems to work in a circus or something. My point about your thread is the headline which seems to suggest that you have found a "cure" which is not the case. Iontophoresis is not a cure either, as you will need to take maintenance treatments, but it works.
Actually the heading of this thread was to do with that website that I mentioned in the beginning that claimed it had a cure. So I was questioning this, hence the question marks.
I have hyerhidrosis of the underarms and feet and slighty of the upper thighs aswell as palms. What I was saying is that I would like somthing that is able to treat both underarms and palms at the same time. As it seems its possible to make a Ion machine cheaply I may give this a go. The thought of spending big $$$ on somthing that was only going to treat my palms (not to worried about feet) and not underarms did not seem worthwhile to me. That basically was the point I was making.
Please disregard Cejala, the guy seems to work in a circus or something. My point about your thread is the headline which seems to suggest that you have found a "cure" which is not the case. Iontophoresis is not a cure either, as you will need to take maintenance treatments, but it works.
Alright....why are you saying to disregard what I said?? What sounds circus like?? But speaking of Circuses...my daughter will be playing a monkey in a circus scene in a play... ; )
I am a 49 year old Mom ...by the way.
Bigz, The machine I made is working. It took 9 days to work for my daugher's hands and we are now doing the feet. I am not sure how people do the armpit area? I made the unit by using bread pans to occompodate her full hand and then her full foot, to make sure that the sweat does not stay on the top of the hand or foot, like I heard other's mention using the traditional units that only work with the palms. Using that theory...could a unit be made possibly that could be big enough to dip bigger parts of the body..as in entire thigh? Or how does one work with those regions now?
Saying that .....I am too new to this forum and topic.....but I do have a problem solving spirit...even if it seems circus like by some....I only wish to brainstorm with those who are looking for possible options or solutions. Any words of why these idea's would not work, please pass them on with a little grace, please. thanks!
My Idromed 4 treats both my hands and feet, and you can order special under arm pads. I donīt know if it would be possible to make special trays to treat your underarms, but why not? I donīt think itīs a wise idea to treat entire thighs with iontophoresis because compensatory sweating will strike back somewhere else on the body, besides blocking large skin areas from sweating could turn out to be dangerous in hot climates, since youīre destabilizing the cooling system of the body.
Cejela my comment about your circus style was provoked by your description of using TIN plates which I thought meant the metal which we call TIN in danish, which I canīt imagine is any good for iontophoresis , but I realize that you probably meant aluminium baking trays, so there again is a linguistic misunderstanding. Finni Syndergaard actually is using plain old aluminium baking trays for his iontophoresis device called the "Dermatol"
I found out in the Wikipeida that english people call any shiny metal for tin..
"In modern times, the word "tin" is often (improperly) used as a generic phrase for any silvery metal that comes in thin sheets"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin
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