Joined: May 03, 2005 Posts: 1165 Location: England
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:40 pm Post subject:
I know its a bit of a paradox but you shouldn't be in a hurry to grow up.. I mean these people who are your age are talking about houses, money work etc.. wtf?! Seems people are in such a hurry to live in mediocrity.
BornAgain,
Don't make assumptions about me; you don't know me. And your inferences are very wrong.
I will only repeat myself once: I don't have to explain myself to you.
Either address the subject matter of my post and make a valid argument, or this stops here. You have done nothing but flame and rant; hardly what I would call a discussion.
Joined: Dec 16, 2006 Posts: 118 Location: Bay Area, CALI
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:16 pm Post subject:
mienaino wrote:
BornAgain,
Don't make assumptions about me; you don't know me. And your inferences are very wrong.
I will only repeat myself once: I don't have to explain myself to you.
Either address the subject matter of my post and make a valid argument, or this stops here. You have done nothing but flame and rant; hardly what I would call a discussion.
You don't have to explain yourself, yes, I know this. That is utterly irrelevant. I, however, quite enjoy explaining myself, for I have not shit to hide, and would be happy to do so.
It's you who has to address the matter of my post, because I am putting you on spot about your views on teenagers. Why is it that people here hate responding to rants and raves, and ignore them as such? Is it that you can't handle being yelled at (figuritively), or that you can't think of any rebuttal so you just go "ahhhh, stop ranting" to make yourself look like a winner.
All my arguments are valid, regardless of whether you think I'm just ranting, that makes absolutely no difference at all. I already said half of my post was a personal attack against you, and the other half a legitimate agrument. You hardly think that's a discussion? Have you ever debated anyone? Do you ever have deep, intelligent conversations in which the person you are conversing with has conflicting ideas and you have to prove them wrong? Do you know anything about arguments?
Obviously, you have never defensively (and offensively) debated someone, or else you would know how heated a person gets when they have to argue with a stubborn person.
And this self-control bullshit, that would be ok, except that the reason you're doing it is to prove a point. If it was just a normal reaction, then you wouldn't have to say you are showing it, it would just be appearant. Self control has very little, or nothing, to do with maturity. That is a weak argument, with little logical merit.
Change the way you think about teens, or else karma may change the way it's been treating you.
p.s.- I don't really believe in karma that much, I just didn't want to post something anti-climactic, so I chose that.
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Hi, I have read the reply s and it has helped. Thanks.
I don't think life is suffering or at least it shouldn't be. Life should be what you want it to be. Some people might want to be remembered for something, some people might want to help as many people as they can, some people want to see the world some people want to develop and master a skill. In my case I want to do what **I** want to do. Basically enjoy myself. Some people might think this is selfish but its who I am. Don't get me wrong I like helping people and doing favors but if I don't feel like going to diner with my uncle, I wont go, why? Because I didn't feel like it at the time. Next week I could be hungry and go, and enjoy myself.
As for the paranoia, it is a problem I have but i am working on it. For example when I got the job I am working at now for about 3 months I was convinced that my parents were paying my boss for me to work there and that my boss was not actually paying me anything, it was coming out of my parents pockets. This was a combination of the fact that when I got the job I didn't really know what I was doing and had no qualifications and my parents were having money troubles at the same time but didn't want anymore than 200€ a month from me. I offered to pay all my wage towards the mortgage(sp?) but they didn't accept.
BornAgain, I can see how you read mienaino's post, but I think you went overboard with the name-calling.
Maybe moving into my own place will make me feel more independent and as if I am getting on with my life? Financially I could get a 1 bedroom (all I need) apartment and pay bills and food. but I wouldn't be able to buy anything ''for me''. I have been working since I left school in July and have been enjoying being able to buy a good computer, fix up my bike,etc. I would have to trade that for living alone.
But then where? I will probably get pay increases, then be able to buy some stuff, a nice tv or something. But then what? Go on holiday for a week? Buy a car...all for what? Personally I would be happy to spend my free time messing with computers (its my job), playing pc games and riding my bike for the rest of my life. But something inside of me is telling me I should do something bigger, but what? A girlfriend would be nice but I don't see it happening. wife? LOL.
Just when we start to get things together its time to leave this place
I don't think life is suffering or at least it shouldn't be.
I didn't mean for it to be taken literally. "Life is suffering" is a cliche, it is relatively equivilent with "shit happens." I just prefer the former.
One of the most important things to do which will help you feel like you're moving on in life, will be to become more independent. A job, renting an apartment somewhere, going to uni on your own initiative, anything that fosters responsibility and self-reliance will be a significant step of the way. It's action, not talk, that defines who you are. Break out of the cocoon, if you will.
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