people who discuss scuicide on this site should be ashamed!

Generical · Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:03 pm Post subject:

^ i don't totally agree, she still seems to have some crap on her top lip from having her head up her arse.

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Doomed2Die · Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:11 am Post subject:

(Waiting for a mod to lock the thread)

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krs · Newbie User Joined: Feb 17, 2008 Posts: 2

Because I've reached my max. posts for the day, I had to sign in under a new user name. I wanted to post a reply before/in case this thread gets locked out. Though it pains me to say this, I do owe "This is why.." an apology for going so over the top. I am sorry for that. I am also sorry to those of you that are angry with me for going off like I did. That being said, I would like to explain.

I happened along this thread looking for something to read, without knowledge of the author. Once I got in here, I realized who'd posted it. Coincidentally, I had read a few of her other posts a couple days ago. They are all the same. Rude. Put downs. Stop whining. Cry baby. Shit your pants. You know the rest. All complete crap. She comes onto a site dedicated to Social Phobia and insults everyone on the site for having phobias. Scissorhands put it far more eloquently than I did but, for some reason, he decided to delete that post and that's too bad. He hit the nail on the head. A phobia is an irrational fear. Anyone who is studying psychology knows this. This fact is what completely incensed me. When I read that, I simply could not believe someone who is a student of psychology would post some of the garbage that this girl has posted. Psychology is a field in which compassion, understanding and respect are absolute necessities. I saw none of those qualities in what I read.

I am not even going to respond to the majority of what she replied to me with. I will say that I did not, in fact, contradict myself. I used the number 4 to represent just that... the NUMBER. I would also like to say that as far as "owning" me, I completely disagree. She uses 5th grade tactics to evoke a response and I, for one, graduated from the 5th grade.

I am going to go now because if I don't my apology will be entirely lost.

~Krs2snow~

jus · Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:17 am Post subject:

i guess someone got an A in there last pychology test and is now fully qualified ??? Smile

go back to lying on your back with your legs spread, Im more than confident it will be the only way you'll get respect. Keeping your mouth open isnt doing alot for ya.

its funny the ppl agreeing with this moron, shes basicaly putting everyone of us down and they dont seem to relise Razz

imagine how truly fucked in the head you have to be to get this sort of attitude, and we thought we were the ones with problems Smile

weird0 · Newbie User Joined: Feb 16, 2008 Posts: 3

What worries me is that during the course of her therapy, this-is-why-im-hot may have been unwittingly encouraged by her therapist(s) to overcome bullying / social phobia by "becoming a bully" herself.

Or maybe her therapist(s) never taught her any useful skills for dealing with any pent-up anger which may have "bubbled up" to the surface during the course of her therapy.

Or a combination of both.

And she may not be entirely consciously aware herself that this could be occurring in her life at present.

I'm sure there are much more constructive ways of dealing with anger than to simply "vent it at an easy target", so to speak, by bullying other people around who have issues with their own shyness or social phobic tendencies.

Aren't registered psychologists and other "therapists" supposed to be fully trained in how to teach their clients ***constructive*** skills on how to become more conscious of their own emotions / negative thoughts, and how to deal with them / express them, and how to stand up for themselves when they need to in a socially-appropriate, non-aggressive manner??

Which raises a few interesting rhetorical questions to ponder (for me, at least):-

1. How does one learn to stand up for themselves without resorting to bullying tactics themselves, if their therapist(s) hasn't taught them the proper skills??

2. How does one recognise, when choosing a therapist, whether the therapist him/herself has any major "unresolved personal issues" of their own that could have a detrimental effect on one's own course of therapy??

3. How does one recognise, when choosing a therapist, whether the therapist has the appropriate skill-set to treat one's specific problem(s)??

A piece of paper from a university or other accredited training organisation is one thing, but it only guarantees that the therapist has "passed" a certain set of exams and completed a certain set of assignments to a "bare minimum acceptable" standard. It give little to no indication as to whether the therapist has adequate "people skills" to be successful in practice, or of their actual level of competency / incompetence in practice.

There are excellent therapists, and then there are those who are downright harmful that deserve to be de-registered and banned from ever practising again.

4. How does one recognise whether a therapist genuinely loves what they do for a living and genuinely wants to help their clients to lead a better life, or whether the therapist is jaded and bitter about being unable to help some clients, or is only in it for the money??

Admittedly, it can be difficult for therapists to help a client who doesn't appear to have any desire to help themselves, or is only turning up to therapy sessions because they've been forced to by their parents or employers.

But any competent therapist should be able to ask their clients challenging questions in a compassionate manner - "push the right buttons", so to speak, in order to get their clients to challenge their own negative thought patterns themselves and (hopefully, eventually) motivate them in a constructive way to a point where they want to help themselves.

That's what clients are paying exorbitant consultancy fees to their therapists for.

A therapist is paid to work with vulnerable clients who don't always necessarily know how to help themselves (at first) except by turning up on their therapist's doorstep.

If a therapist tells their clients to simply "go away, I can't help you if you don't want to help yourself" without putting the proper time and effort into challenging / questioning their clients' ways of thinking, and doesn't have the patience to deal with vulnerable, "whingeing / whining" clients who don't know how to help themselves...

...then as far as I'm concerned, he/she is in the wrong profession and should seriously consider a career change...

Sorry for the length of this post, but my mind ran away with me...

recluse · Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:20 pm Post subject:

Primrose · Newbie User Joined: Sep 14, 2007 Posts: 79