Joined: Nov 17, 2007 Posts: 64 Location: New York City
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:18 am Post subject:
Ok, to er1k and anyone else trying to help me out here:
Listen, I've done all the things you say. I work in two forms. One evident in my last post. In the other: I can muster up self-confidence if I try hard enough and be incredibly charming. I can't get any better; I'm in a state of normality and pride and "alpha maleness" and suaveness, and I provide a perfect balance of not being too assertive while making it subtly clear that I want to spend time with a girl in a movie or lunch or something, and I'm going by all the rules of all the success stories.
BUT IT NEVER WORKS. EVER. It's not that, due to shyness/weakness, I can't get a girl; it's due to not getting a girl, I become shy and weak. The last girl who I thought liked me turned out to like my suitemate instead, completely ignoring me while being extremely assertive with him; this is the straw that broke my back. So this isn't an issue of "being at my best" or "putting myself out there." None of that romantic garbage. This is an issue of certain chemicals not being released by my body and my subsequent failure, chemically, to attract others. I am too outright normal and unique, nice and asshole-ish when appropriate, not to have gotten a girl by now. So thanks for the compliments redribbons and thanks for the advice raga and er1k, but it simply doesn't apply here. Love is just a sick game. Hate is so much simpler and meaningful than love. I think I'm going to give up. There's no such thing as 'the one" nor "good things come to those who wait." **** it. Maybe I'll join the army and go die in Iraq. I don't really give a crap anymore, it's better than laboring to get a good job and studying, because what will that lead to? Money and a mansion? I'm a very plain person- I don't like amenities other than the basics; I don't buy the iphones and the ipods, hell I have a black & white cell phone. I don't enjoy material goods. So where will the money get me? What use will I have with it? None. Maybe then I'll get a girl, a vicious one who wants me for money; like I said, if I can't attract a girl in my prime, I know any girl in the future who acts attracted to me is only in it for the money. And as such I will probably be cuckolded, poisoned, whatever else golddiggers do. **** love. Just **** it.
Ok, to er1k and anyone else trying to help me out here:
Listen, I've done all the things you say. I work in two forms. One evident in my last post. In the other: I can muster up self-confidence if I try hard enough and be incredibly charming. I can't get any better; I'm in a state of normality and pride and "alpha maleness" and suaveness, and I provide a perfect balance of not being too assertive while making it subtly clear that I want to spend time with a girl in a movie or lunch or something, and I'm going by all the rules of all the success stories.
BUT IT NEVER WORKS. EVER. It's not that, due to shyness/weakness, I can't get a girl; it's due to not getting a girl, I become shy and weak. The last girl who I thought liked me turned out to like my suitemate instead, completely ignoring me while being extremely assertive with him; this is the straw that broke my back. So this isn't an issue of "being at my best" or "putting myself out there." None of that romantic garbage. This is an issue of certain chemicals not being released by my body and my subsequent failure, chemically, to attract others. I am too outright normal and unique, nice and asshole-ish when appropriate, not to have gotten a girl by now. So thanks for the compliments redribbons and thanks for the advice raga and er1k, but it simply doesn't apply here. Love is just a sick game. Hate is so much simpler and meaningful than love. I think I'm going to give up. There's no such thing as 'the one" nor "good things come to those who wait." **** it. Maybe I'll join the army and go die in Iraq. I don't really give a crap anymore, it's better than laboring to get a good job and studying, because what will that lead to? Money and a mansion? I'm a very plain person- I don't like amenities other than the basics; I don't buy the iphones and the ipods, hell I have a black & white cell phone. I don't enjoy material goods. So where will the money get me? What use will I have with it? None. Maybe then I'll get a girl, a vicious one who wants me for money; like I said, if I can't attract a girl in my prime, I know any girl in the future who acts attracted to me is only in it for the money. And as such I will probably be cuckolded, poisoned, whatever else golddiggers do. **** love. Just **** it.
Do you think that this guy gets tons of girls because of his rugged looks and musculature?
He's like 6'5'' or something and is like a toothpick with arms. You should read up on him. His name is Mystery, Google it
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Fine Spec, you have no hopes of ever getting a girl. You've made your point clear. All we were doing was trying to help you understand and feel more comfortable about the whole sex thing.
Argamemnon wrote:
RedRibbons wrote:
I believe that caring too much about appearance is superficial.
The person doesn't have to be all these traits.. But they are traits that I am attracted to.
I had posted that message in a hurry; I'm sorry it sounded so blunt (wasn't my intention). I just wanted to say that I tend to think that having all those traits is nearly impossible for most people.
Oh I know. Those are just traits that I am attracted to. I don't expect a guy to have all those traits, but a fair number at least. :p
Joined: Nov 17, 2007 Posts: 64 Location: New York City
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:43 pm Post subject:
RedRibbons wrote:
Fine Spec, you have no hopes of ever getting a girl. You've made your point clear. All we were doing was trying to help you understand and feel more comfortable about the whole sex thing.
Haha, success
But actually you did help a lot with that. I'm more mentally prepared for it should the oppurtuntiy ever arise. So thank you very much.
Thelema I'll look him up soon, I got to get to class in a minute, you got my curiosity peaked, I'll tell you that
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The word "cowardly" is often used as another word for effectivly.
I'm in a state of normality and pride and "alpha maleness" and suaveness, and I provide a perfect balance of not being too assertive while making it subtly clear that I want to spend time with a girl in a movie or lunch or something, and I'm going by all the rules of all the success stories.
I think I'm going to give up. There's no such thing as 'the one" nor "good things come to those who wait." **** it. Maybe I'll join the army and go die in Iraq. I don't really give a crap anymore, it's better than laboring to get a good job and studying, because what will that lead to? Just **** it.
No disrespect, but the two paragraphs I quoted from your post above contradict each other.
If the FIRST paragraph were true, you'd never say the SECOND paragraph. If the SECOND paragraph is something you truly mean, the FIRST paragraph cannot be true.
I suspect that you are ACTING like the first paragraph, but PROJECTING/TELEGRAPHING the information in the second paragraph. So you are undermining your own acting job.
Women can see that very easily. They are a lot more 'present' and observant than us guys.
What do do? Be pissed off about it for a while. I'm not going to tell you not to, because you wouldn't listen. It DOES suck, and it IS hard.
But when you get REALLY pissed off and snap, do something about it.
So I challenge you.
What would a true 'alpha male' (your words) in your situation do?
(I'll give you a hint - he wouldn't say *** it and sulk off to a corner and die)
"Markovik was, by his own account, unable to attract women in his teenage years, and he was at one time a Dungeons and Dragons player.[4] He has also described himself as a "late bloomer", having not reached puberty until the age of 16, and not losing his virginity until age 21.[1] As a result of his sexual frustration and loneliness he traveled to nearby cities over a 10-year period and approached women. Over time and after thousands of cold approaches,[6] he developed a routine based system for successful approaches called the Mystery Method."
So this dorky guy that didn't lose his virginity until he was 21 has become the self proclaimed greatest pick up artist of all time.
I highly doubt that a lot of people are envying Mystery's looks or even his fashion style, but he gets girls like nobody else! He makes a living teaching other guys how to get girls. This has to be the most inspiring kick in the pants you're gonna find if you're a dorky guy that doesn't think he looks so attractive
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