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nikki_marie
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I have never called people with sp cowards. i only ever said people who commit suicide were, wether they sp or not, dont matter. But lets not discuss the suicide thing on here, theres already a post for that discussion lol.
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IcarusUnderWater2
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Nobody with SP is a coward like you say. I can't begin to understand the mindset of those who commit suicide... but i do wish that they would share their feelings before they decided to take their lives so that they gave themselves a chance.
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Psychedelicious
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You shouldn't be allowed to say that unless you actually understand, or have experienced the position that they are in when they are like this. You don't know how they feel when they want to end their life. Maybe then you can say something.
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IcarusUnderWater2
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:12 am Post subject: |
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| Psychedelicious wrote: | | You shouldn't be allowed to say that unless you actually understand, or have experienced the position that they are in when they are like this. You don't know how they feel when they want to end their life. Maybe then you can say something. |
What a paradox 
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Psychedelicious
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LOL I'm dumb I don't know what a paradox is! I know it's probably really obvious, but I think it's a bad thing. What I said was completely wrong then right 
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IcarusUnderWater2
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:21 am Post subject: |
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| Psychedelicious wrote: | | LOL I'm dumb I don't know what a paradox is! I know it's probably really obvious, but I think it's a bad thing. What I said was completely wrong then right |
what you said was fine. What i was highlighting was that in the context you put it in...you would ultimately commit suicide yourself and thus not be able to comment on the mind set of a suicidal person atall. I was trying to find humour in the darkness. My bad
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nikki_marie
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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whats make people think i havnt had lows the same as someone who has eventauly commited suicide?
u cant measure pain, so u never know how equal one persons pain is to another.
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jamez
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Well many people think people with SP are cowards. And IMO it does take a bit of balls to commit suicide, however unfortunate it is for the loved ones left behind. So have you ever contemplated suicide yourself?
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nikki_marie
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no i havent ever concidered suicide, but thats not to say i havent expereinced the same pain as someone who has concidered suicide. i just think everyones different, some people when something shit happens think right i never want to feel like this again! so put things in place, other people spend longer dwelling on the problem and feel more hopeless. its all about your mind set really
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krs2snow
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| nicki wrote: | | u cant measure pain, so u never know how equal one persons pain is to another. |
You are absolutely correct! You cannot compare one persons pain against another's. Threshold is a very personal thing. What one person might brush off as a mere inconvenience another person may find devastating.
| Nicki wrote: | | no i havent ever concidered suicide, but thats not to say i havent expereinced the same pain as someone who has concidered suicide. |
This is a contradiction. You just posted how you cannot compare one person's pain against another's and how you cannot measure pain, so how then, do you know you have experienced an equivalent amount of pain as someone who has considered (and/or committed) suicide?
I think, if a person has never even contemplated the idea of suicide then they are not in the same field as someone who has. And they are not even in the same ballpark as someone- who has not only contemplated- but also tried to commit suicide. The person's personal threshold has not been tapped, therefore, wholly incomparable.
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