well it surprises me that many here just believe the OP knuckleflash like that. First posters who come with a long story of how they got cured with a link referring to some guru or method sound usually fishy to me as well. When I saw that link to the david deangelo dvd's, it was clear to me that this is david himself posting, trying to sell his dvd's. It's also quite unbelievable to claim that you never experienced any sort of fear since you were "cured". (practically all people experience fear in some situations, even if it's mild or for just a moment). Note that the OP actually signed his post with the name 'David' ! I guess you forgot to hide your signature when you posted, huh
I wouldn't even mind if you gave some publicity here for your DVD's, as long as you don't pretend to be someone else, claiming you had SP and got recovered thx to your own program.
And plse don't bash free methods like EFT, if you hadn't tried them yourself or you're just jealous and afraid that they might work for some people. If you would be truly interested in helping other people, then you wouldn't turn down other methods like that and lie to people to sell your own stuff, Mindset/knuckleflash or should I just call you 'David'?
The mp3 site that Mindset says is his has no relation to the David D'angelo dvd's.
It would make no sense that this was actually David D'Angelo because he would want people to BUY his dvds, but the link from the OP is for an illegal torrent download of the DVD's. D'Angelo makes no money when people choose to download the dvd's in this manner.
I'm sure that people post here all the time trying to make money, but in this case I just don't see it. If the OP posted the amazon page for D'angelo's dvd's - fine, but that isn't the case.
Yeah ok I apoligize, you post your details you get accused of spamming, you don't and you get accused of spamming and being someone else. I am Dr Andrew Dobson (PhD) from Mindfit Hypnosis. And as I mentioned there are PLENTY of psychological studies showing the effectiveness of Social Phobia treatments. David D I would imagine has better things to do than seek out websites on Social Phobias when his product is seduction. But I guess in order to protect your big conspiracy theory than the world is out to get you rather than offer help.
Things like EFT have no evidence other than heresay, so make up your mind, either people commenting with heresay saying they found things useful is ok or it is not. If it is Ok then what is wrong with saying look this approach works, and it has been shown to work in a clinical setting. Which means NO other factors played a part! Unless it is only Ok if it is free?
As for Knuckleflash, I said that he was not me posting on a site for sales. I did however say go to google look up a pyschology abstract site and check it out. But you know it is up to you, look for demonstrated systems that work or bitch about how people who have found them must be trying to sell you something. Personally I have no belief in 'Spiritual woo woo shit' so I have no problems charging money for skills I have that will help with issues others have. Hell i got to pay my mechanic $80 an hour to fix my car so why would I feel bad about charging $13 to help someone with social phobia or other psychological issues? Just because something is free or thousands of years old does not make it good, I find it remarkable that people trust their health to this delusional belief but still have the latest cell phone and computer and trust science and research when it benefits them.
For being a doctor I really think you should be more understanding of people's skepticism. I believe you when you say that you have no relation to D'Angelo and are not trying to make money, but you have to be aware that people here have a rational reason to be skeptical. For most of us, we've had anxiety issues for as long as we can remember; we've tried every cure and method in the book for little results.
Of course we want help, and most of us are willing to give anything a shot. But once you try 5 or 6 things that are "guaranteed to free you from social anxiety" and they all fail, you naturally become skeptical.
So give us a break - you're a doctor! Calm it and try offering a calm and collected response next time.
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject: The doctor seems ok- lighten up peeps.
I don't see him as being too harsh. Like he said, nuckleflash isn't making any money - he's just offering to HELP. I understand that people try to market stuff by going to forums- so yes, be skeptical...BUT don't be so skeptical that you bash a guy and don't try thier advice!
This guy says he saw the google hits and looked up the forum- if you have ever sold good helpful products, you do this sort of market research.
I say we all read the advice and look into it- before we bash these guys who seem like they are just trying to help us...wadda ya say we call a truce here people
Quetzalcoatl; I'm not trying to sell anything here. I just figured that someone with SA might benefit from my story. So I did a google search and found this forum. I'm probably never going to post here again. If I've helped one person with my post I'm happy. All the best to you.
Joined: May 27, 2008 Posts: 31 Location: North Wales
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 9:02 pm Post subject:
Knuckleflash, i think some of the replies you got wer'e rather harsh! I can see where your coming from, you wer'e only trying to help. I'ts people taking the piss which would offend me, but clearly you're just offering some advice. I'm glad that you've been helped, and i hope your not put off writing here again!
Joined: May 29, 2008 Posts: 18 Location: toledo oh
Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:13 am Post subject:
The "Harsh Comments" are more like "Honest" comments. Who honestly believes that BS ..! Its pathetic and it annoys the helloutof me. Anxiety is VERY complicated !. . You cant simply solve it by meditating and working out. SA is tied deep within our thought patterns and personality. In my opinion, the best way to overcome it, or even come close depending on how bad it is, is to first, try to get your hands on a good rated med for SA.. Something that will calm your brain down when your in the social setting. I think meds help cuz theyhelp you calm down and feel a sense of security. If you find a med, or found some technique to help with the physicalsymptoms, work on exposing yourself. I think this is the hardest part because most peoplewith SA feel like they'll imbaress themselves or have a panic attack. The key is to expose yourself enough times to the point where you eventually start to see things as most positive people do. Most people live off of positive actions, or "upbeat" personalities. Whenyou start to connect with howmost people feel and view themselves, and others, you'll have a very comforting feeling because you know that things are the COMPLETE opposite in alot of cases that you previously thought. Its deff not something easy to get over, but if you can somehow, try to figure out that social phobia is connected with how we percieve things, you'll be amazed with how ya feel. Its wierd because people who dont worry about being shy, arent shy. And people who judge themselves in a negative way in every action and word they speak, makes them focus MAINLY on how other people see them. I know when i had it i would always be thinking about it and dwelling on things i did or was going to do. Try to gradually change your thought patterns. Eventually, you'll start to see how the world really is, and you'll feel more safe in your ownskin. When your absorbed in reality, you'll find yourself trying to get to know people, and making up for all the time you lost. But thats if your commited. Dont get me wrong, alot of people prbly have more complicated forms of it than i did, but If i got over it i think almost anyone can. I felt desperate , but the truth is, most of it is in the way we percieve things. Being happy doesn't mean that everything is perfect. It means that you've decided to look beyond the imperfections. The only way to find true happiness is to risk being completely cut open. i hope i helped GL
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