I think there are certain people that really shouldn't have kids, or arn't trained enough to go about it properly, if you cant even look after yourself then what gives you the right to bring a child into the world ..
well you do have the right however only if you ignite some form of independence and not control over your child, you need to promote risk taking more so then being safe and parents generally do the opposite because they sense ownership, they condition their own influences onto the child for years and years, guilt, worry, you name it .. ..
i to this day believe that you have to bring a "fun" loving influence to the parenting process, the more uptight and conservative you are the more damage you'll inflict ..
thats my opinion and its based on a bias view of observing different families in my own experiance ..but its how i see it
yeh i agree, i think its about making rules, because kids do need rules, but letting them do their own thing between the rules, letting them grow as individual people.
I just wanted to tell ya that I responded to this thread some time ago but the next day I deleted it... for some reason!? (seemed to make sense at the time )
In that deleted response, I basically said that I was trying to point out my perception of ludicrousness in said theory. Also that I've found you to be an excellent Debator and I've enjoyed the philosophical discussion.
And finally:
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A lot of men are attracted to big boobs. But I don't think any men look at them and think "You know what, if we had a baby, the mammary glands in those things would be perfect for feeding a child..."
Ooohh reeally? I had a guy tell me he wanted to date me because he thought I had- what he called- good 'birthing hips'! Aack! We never dated! Instead, I became obsessed with my 'huge hips' and started dieting like mad! ...
Hasta Luego!
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yeh same here, like giving up a seat for an old person on the bus, seeing a crying kid on their own and talking to them, why would i do that for my own gain??
i like to believe their are good people in the world
Hi Jinxed… and Nicki. (I'm iust kidding, Nicki, don't go all crazy on me... well, sort of kidding anyway ... )
I can completely understand how you'd both disagree with "everything we do is selfish". Sooo, I'll try to explain my theory. (It's not my theory, per say, it's some philosophers' theory but I agree with it!)
I’m not saying that selfishness is good or bad or there are no good people in the world. As Bleach mentioned, most people automatically equate the word selfishness with something negative or evil. Earlier, I said:
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Even the most kind-hearted act is, in the end, acted upon by the person to fulfill a desire within themselves, hence, selfish. Maybe that desire is simply to achieve the good feeling you get knowing you helped someone. It doesn't actually matter what the desire is, it is still selfish. Whether that's good, bad or indifferent, I don't know but that's human nature.
So, in the one example, if you give your seat to an elderly person on the bus (a good deed), you ultimately do this to either experience pleasure from helping the person or to avoid the pain it would cause you to NOT help them. Either way, both are selfish. This is what I was getting at when I said parenting is selfish, too. Because all acts are ultimately selfish. Again, Not good. Not bad. Just is.
Neways, if you google Ayn Rand she writes about all this.
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Aack! We never dated! Instead, I became obsessed with my 'huge hips' and started dieting like mad! 
