yeah I agree with you. There´s no reason us guys cant work on our personality though so that we become more confident and attractive. Yes its a hard long road but i think its really worth it.
Wanna know my take? I think that because these guys are assholes, they're not being sincere with their girlfriends about their true personality of intentions, which we often bear the brunt of. Only we know they're assholes.
I've known some "Emo" and/or "goth" people in my time, and however outgoing and "normal" they may seem, the tendency is still a certain level of sadism, and cold cynicism about real chivalry (paradoxically, these are the people to whom I'm often most attracted - they're modest to a fault, and so charming). One person often mused consciously about how she had always been most attracted to the assholes, and never cared for the nice guys, whom she had dated. Obviously, such a revelation implies consciousness of the phenomena, and therefore something puzzling and sad about the human condition.
As for me I have been told that I'm a very good looking guy. Guess what? Women wanted to talk to me but every single one lost attraction to me after five minutes of conversation. What does this show? Looks mean nothing.
It shows that you must have a terrible personality. Honestly, if you're a very good looking guy and don't do anything retarded, than you should have no problems.
Fuck that 'looks don't matter' shit. Live my life before you comment.
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:56 am Post subject: Re: why do women like assholes?
black_mamba wrote:
I think what some people see in asshole guys in the assertiveness. Not neccessarily confidence in general but the ability to stand up for yourself.
Yeah, it comes down to the provider, protector of evolution. So-called "assholes" are usually well connected, afraid of nothing or no one, can get things done, can win pub fights, are well respected, and it is good for her image around others. They may well be bullies who may or may not turn on their girl, but ultuimately it doesn't matter whether the guy is nice or nasty because women are only after one thing in men - power. It has been proven 100% by scientists.
mienaino wrote:
Let me ask you a question:
Why do guys like petty, high maintenance drama queens?
The most sense I've been able to make out if it is, because they're different.
No they're not. Most women are like you describe.
Lyricaljust wrote:
why is it like this? It's like the rude, mean, obnoxious guys get the really nice looking girls.. while the True, sincere, Nice guys are left in the dirt with just a bunch of loneliness.. I have wondered about this for years.. it's like the whole system is upside down..
No it isn't. Women go for the fittest strongest alpha male they can get. They do go for nice guys too, but only if they have the alpha qualities.
Lyricaljust wrote:
that if a girl gets with one of the rude guys and fake ones.. it's like are you sure that.. that girl whoever it is.. is one that you really want to be with?
They want a provider and protector, and in the West in the 21st Century, image is everything.
Butterflies wrote:
I agree with Hellraising - you're looking at the wrong ladies! Great, senstive guys are rare - and girls love them.
That's just something women say. Theey always look for sensitivity, sense of humour etc. but you'll find that they go for the aggresive macho male, because he is more manly and therefore, better evolved.
recluse wrote:
In all honesty us nice guys are boring, that's the truth isn't it!? All the girls in school ignored me and the bad boys got the attention. Maybe if i took drugs, drank a lot, smoked, got into fights i'd get more attention?
If you were to go into a club and knock out some random guy, women would throw themselves at you.
ripewithdecay wrote:
If girls are truly programmed only to be attracted to the alpha male, and 95% of us are fucked
No, most men are alpha. Only a small minority are undesirable.
Richey wrote:
some girls like shy guys
Why would they, when it is clear to all that "assholes" make better providers?
If girls are truly programmed only to be attracted to the alpha male, and 95% of us are fucked, then God is a real asshole imo.
Its all based on how society and culture moulds the gender roles, so people dont really think for themselves most of the time i mean you rarely see girls in the building trade or males in the hairdressing trade..
because they are aware of the prejudice behind it ..
Lets be honest in alot of situations some girls clearly crave a person who will have typical male traits, can be handy with tools, will provide some security, will protect them, will adopt your typical male stereotype ...because the mindset is that females can't look after themselves fully enough because they are tied to the conditioned state of what "being a female" is in a socially acceptable society ...and they want to fit in so they stick with what is expected in being a female, they all wear similar make-up, stick to what clothes that are in fashion, so they need a guy to fulfill what is deemed as the male skills to fill the void in their life rather then thinking for themsleves and learning that skill to find a solution but resisting just because its not a girly task ... .. ...
its expected that men act like this and females like this ..but who's to say what is right or wrong?
dont get me wrong men are the same, thats why many wouldn't be seen dead crossing their legs or growing their hair too long, watching chick flicks etc ....
so when i see an alpha male being so cliched and acting like they've been programmed to be that way i actually feel sorry for them, you know the type of guy that only drinks beer, watches action films, into cars, has a real smart arse domineering attitude ..there is nothing wrong with it at all but its clear they've been conditioned to be the textbook male persona ...and to me this is sad ..
I drink wine, read books, play piano and guitar, grow my hair long and short, will watch any film no matter what the storyline, listen to music that is depressing, sad, happy, edgy, classical to punk to heavy metal to dance..i'm also handy with tools but not becasue i feel its the male thing, i just enjoy building and working with my hands ...
i'm a nice guy, not needy but definately not your typical alpha male leader type either and i really don't care or desire to be that way
people should be their own unique personality and not base themselves on gender roles ..
i know how cars work but i have no interest in them as a male i keep being reminded by my dad and other male friends how unusual it is for a guy to have zero interest in cars and drinking beer and ive even been accused of being gay for it, how sad, funny thing is they are the types of people that girls generally end up marrying, thats fine, god forbid a little diversity and being different could hurt instead of the same old types.
My theory is that what females wants are males who are not losers. Being a steriotype badboy isn't a requirement. You can be less noisy and cocky but you must not be anti-social and miserable. And sadly that's how many of us here are.
Which means: It's not assholes, it's non-losers women want.
Don't you people think it's funny how we all have a giant thread here in which we discuss women behavior like if they were some kind of animal which we didn't know much about. :3
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I agree with the statement because they are the ones who ask you out. And at first a lot of bad boys put on a show. Tell you all the things you'd love to hear, whatever to win you over. And then once they do they start acting like jerks. Also the nice guys i've liked never asked me out, if they had it would of been wonderful, and a lot less heartack.
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