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Old 02-19-2011  
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Default Seriously - most people are BORING

Yes, as much as I want to stay positive, I just have to admit that most people around present absolutely no interest to me. And how else can you use to describe these animals who usually have no other interests except eating, drinking, sleeping, sex and maybe some stupid sporting activity?
I'm not superhuman either, and not even Nietzsche fan (hate this *******!). I just want to talk about intelligent, deep subjects, while most people around me seem incapable of it.
I'm taking classes in college, working for state agency in an average American city in the state of California, so I communicate with what you may consider "average people". From my observations of these "average people" I noticed the following topics that get their attention:
1) Their health - "I am sick", and "I'm feeling better" is N1. They like to discuss their health with detail, as if they are talking to doctors. Usually their diseases are nothing more then cold or allergy, but they make it look like they got cancer.
2) What they ate for lunch - It's much easier to go and try rather then discuss. It is interesting that unlike me, most of these people never tried anything more sophisticated then pizza, sandwiches, burrito or Chinese take-away.
3) Their husbands/wives, kids - It is especially painful for me to hear since I never had a girlfriend and had only one disastrous sexual experience 5 years ago (I will discuss it in some other post). But I don't care much if their sister Suzy is working in a bank, or their husband Ben is a plumber. Their kids school and university "successes" present absolutely no interest to me either, as most likely these "successes" will lead to more unexciting careers like their parents. When these bores talk about how their son (of a bore) is getting married, I only hope his future wife will have enough taste to file a divorce.
4) Sports, music and movies - Sports, with the exception of soccer, present no interest to me, how can anyone seriously like football or baseball? Their interest in movies and music usually don't go past Hollywood blockbusters or what is on the charts, and comments sound something like "I love this song", or "This was a cool movie, __________ was hot, and there was a cool shooting/romance".
5) New gadget - No comment

With younger people it's even worse, text messaging teenagers who only care about the new iphone, party with alcohol, and new boyfriend/girlfriend, who often doesn't know what the capital of China is and can't add 53 and 46 without a calculator is a disgrace.

Often these people are also highly intolerant, and can't even imagine that somebody who is 29 can be sexually and romantically inexperienced, and prefers depth to meaningless chatter. Many are also racists and homophobes, although few would admit it (it's actually not too bad in California). A large number of people attend churches, but they never even think of questioning or even taking a closer look at their religion.

I'm not saying that I am one of the elite, not at all, but at least I try to achieve something meaningful, I am a musician, and also plan on getting into journalism, I have a purpose in life, while most people are kind of like zombies - "work, school, home, party, vacation, shopping", and that's pretty much it.

Luckily, there are people around me, with whom I can communicate on politics, history, philosophy, and various cultural topics, but we are, unfortunately, the minority.

I'd like to also note that I do not have any social anxieties, I can meet and talk to people all right, and often initiate conversations, I am not shy(not much at least), I sang on stage, I have quite a few friends (about 10), but I do feel different, I don't feel like I belong in this consumerist culture, while most people are poisoned by it since the early childhood.

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It's culture and it's life. People like certain things and that's the way it is.

You say you don't like sports with the exception of soccer. So you like soccer?

Why? I don't see how anyone could watch soccer. <--- see what I did there? You are putting people into a category and calling them boring and less than you. You say that you aren't putting yourself at an elite status, but you are. You have zero tolerance for the way other people live their lives.

I am not saying you have to like what they like. People are different and it's good to surround yourself with like minded people and people who share your interests.

You have that. You said you have a group of friends who you have a lot in common with.

You also listed all of your qualifications and accomplishments.

You are not better than anyone because of what you do in your life. Or because you don't like talking about the latest Hollywood movie. You aren't better than anyone because you like to non pop culture bands. So, say I only like Justin Bieber and I've never listened to AC/DC... so?

You don't have to like what everyone else likes. It's part of being who you are. But to sit here and complain about all of them? That's wrong.

Also you said that you don't consider yourself elite but "at least you try to accomplish something meaningful."

Remember that it's only meaningful to YOU. Whatever someone else is doing is accomplishing something meaningful to THEM.
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If you're content in your opposition and deviation from all that you described as "boring" normal pop culture stuff, then I'm not so sure why you feel the need to rant about what is so awful about it all.

I've had my own experience with being completely disgusted with all that and putting some huge separation between myself and everything else. But if you're comfortable with yourself then there's no reason to, I think. You can exist among it, you don't have to feel a push and pull. Nothing good comes from the "us and them" mentality.
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It's culture and it's life. People like certain things and that's the way it is.

You say you don't like sports with the exception of soccer. So you like soccer?

Why? I don't see how anyone could watch soccer. <--- see what I did there? You are putting people into a category and calling them boring and less than you. You say that you aren't putting yourself at an elite status, but you are. You have zero tolerance for the way other people live their lives.

I am not saying you have to like what they like. People are different and it's good to surround yourself with like minded people and people who share your interests.

You have that. You said you have a group of friends who you have a lot in common with.

You also listed all of your qualifications and accomplishments.

You are not better than anyone because of what you do in your life. Or because you don't like talking about the latest Hollywood movie. You aren't better than anyone because you like to non pop culture bands. So, say I only like Justin Bieber and I've never listened to AC/DC... so?

You don't have to like what everyone else likes. It's part of being who you are. But to sit here and complain about all of them? That's wrong.

Also you said that you don't consider yourself elite but "at least you try to accomplish something meaningful."

Remember that it's only meaningful to YOU. Whatever someone else is doing is accomplishing something meaningful to THEM.
I'm not better then anyone, as I said, I'm not at all perfect. Neither am I a hater of so called pop culture (I actually like some of it more then some of so called underground culture).
Yes, I may be considered intolerant, but my intolerance is only a response to theirs.

I have been severely bullied in my high school years, and I later on asked one of these bullies why is he doing these things to me. His response was that I was different, that I didn't do or like the things other idiots like him were into (quite honest, isn't it?).

So, why am I supposed to be tolerant to such intolerance? No, sir, intolerant *******s caused a lot of misery in my life, and I will never like them, or be in any way tolerant to them.

And the modern society is theirs, it is not suited to people who stand away from the crowd. These days, long after I finished school, I still see that non acceptance of people different from them, it's just that their response to it is simply less violent, but no more accepting.

Why should I be tolerant to some text-messaging teenager who can't put two words together, and ridicules qualities such as intelligence and high morals?

And no, most people don't graduate from high school, they just become more mature, but their inner cores are corrupted. And yes, partially by this popular culture. So, why should we be tolerant to it? No, no, no!
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If you're content in your opposition and deviation from all that you described as "boring" normal pop culture stuff, then I'm not so sure why you feel the need to rant about what is so awful about it all.

I've had my own experience with being completely disgusted with all that and putting some huge separation between myself and everything else. But if you're comfortable with yourself then there's no reason to, I think. You can exist among it, you don't have to feel a push and pull. Nothing good comes from the "us and them" mentality.
Why should I necessarily talk about things I am insecure about? That's a typical position of shy individuals, but the first step away from shyness is, in my opinion, in being secure, and talk from the position of strength.

I would love to separate myself from others, but it's a position of an ostrich hiding it's head in the sand. We are living in a cruel world, I just talked about people who are simply boring, but there are also people who are absolutely ruthless, who will eat you for the sake of it.

And the first step to confront this world, is, as I said, in being secure, and talking from the position of strength.
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Haven't you ever heard of the expression an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind? It's true. You can't fight fire with fire.

So SOME people aren't tolerant of people who have different views than theirs. Some people don't like people who are "different". Not everyone is like that.

You can't hate every single person who is interested in mainstream things. Not everyone is the same. Not everyone is a snob.

I am sorry to hear that someone in your high school bullied you because you were different. But you can't generalize and stereotype like that.

I just don't understand how you can complain about how unaccepting these people are, when you are doing the exact same thing.

Why should I be tolerant to some text-messaging teenager who can't put two words together, and ridicules qualities such as intelligence and high morals?

"And no, most people don't graduate from high school, they just become more mature, but their inner cores are corrupted. And yes, partially by this popular culture. So, why should we be tolerant to it? No, no, no! "

This is *your* opinion of what "high morals" are. Why should we be tolerant of your intolerance?

Stop judging people.
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I do believe there are far more becoming and useful things you can choose to talk and rant about from a position of strength and security, no?
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I'm not intelligent enough to contribute to this thread but all I can say is I agree with what MsBuzzkillington has been saying.

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Haven't you ever heard of the expression an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind? It's true. You can't fight fire with fire.
Sure, I should love everybody. They spit in my eyes, I say "Oh, paradise!"
So SOME people aren't tolerant of people who have different views than theirs. Some people don't like people who are "different". Not everyone is like that.

So, according to this view, if Nazis hated Jews, then Jews shouldn't hate Nazis. In my opinion, evil can't be tolerated, and when something is bad, it cannot be accepted.
You can't hate every single person who is interested in mainstream things. Not everyone is the same. Not everyone is a snob.
I love a lot of mainstream things, I guess I wasn't clear on something. It's just that many people consume this popular culture, mainstream or independent, without any thought, and view the world through what they learned there.
Culture is nothing, by the way, in comparison to what kids learn from their peers and environment. That's where they learn truly evil stuff that contributes to the problem many people on this forums have.
I am sorry to hear that someone in your high school bullied you because you were different. But you can't generalize and stereotype like that.

I don't stereotype, unlike those bullies who, I bet, don't even know the word "stereotype". It's just clear to me that only a minority of people actually think, invent, and move this society forward. The majority is just followers. This is the truth, fortunately or unfortunately, and if you observe the society a little bit more, you will see that too.
I just don't understand how you can complain about how unaccepting these people are, when you are doing the exact same thing.
I didn't start it! I'm actually a friendly guy, and I honestly don't see how could someone hate you because you are different. But if they hate me, as I said, I'm not going to love them or even have neutral feelings towards them. They are scum, they are *******s, and I bet they don't have forums like this one where they rant how unfair society is. It is their victims who are having social anxieties, who don't have friends, who are not able to date, who are not able to find happiness.
Shyness and social anxiety are 100% learned, nobody is born shy, it is because of bad experiences with others people screw up their self-esteem. And I will never be tolerant to *******s who do these things to people.
This is *your* opinion of what "high morals" are. Why should we be tolerant of your intolerance?
Well, I am on the side of people crippled and oppressed by this society, who are the majority on this site. I bet you didn't come here because you are all right either.
Stop judging people.
Why not? It's always fun to judge, everybody judges everybody all the time, and then they talk nasty **** behind the back (not everybody does it, but it is quite common). I'm judging society as a whole, not one particular person. If I see something is wrong, why not talk about it?
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I do believe there are far more becoming and useful things you can choose to talk and rant about from a position of strength and security, no?
Give me an idea, and maybe I'll talk about it
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