Struggles with OCD and mysophobia

afterforever

Active member
I need to vent to some people who could potentially understand my frustrations. This rant will probably be very long, so if that's not your cup of tea, by all means hit the back button right now.

It originally started just because I'm a perfectionist and wanted to keep those brand new CDs and DVDs I bought without a scuff or fingerprint, so I'd just wash the oils out of my hands. Then, that wasn't good enough. I started using anti-bacterial soap in these ventures, and, during my hand washing, if I felt as though part of my hand had touched a part of the sink, even if it didn't, I had to repeat the whole process over. Then I realized how filthy the outside world is. I would then wash my hands thoroughly whenever I came in from the outside or touching a doorknob. We own two animals, ditto for whenever I touched them. I started investing in bottles of hand sanitizer, but ultimately I prefer soap because I need the sensation of the filth departing from my hands to do any good. My school marks plummeted back in 11th and 12th grade when I wasn't doing homework because I didn't want to take the books home with me, or even touch them when I was outside of a classroom. When I met my girlfriend, I didn't know what to do, because surely she would reject an obsessive mysophobe like myself. It didn't happen. You know what did happen, though? I can't believe I ever did this, but because all she ever wanted to do was make me happy, she submitted to the demands of my obsessive compulsive tendencies. She wasn't a very healthy girl to begin with, so thrusting something on her that's absolutely going to murder her immune system was absolutely horrible. I hated doing that to her, but I likewise wouldn't let her touch me or come near me if she didn't adhere to the same rules I did. The mysophobia extended beyond the hands to my entire body. If I sat somewhere outside, or even so much as lightly brushed against it, I changed, and if it was severe enough, I showered. Due to the necessity of having to go around the house and do things for myself, like preparing meals or using the washroom, I realized that in order for my hands to survive, I couldn't be washing or sanitizing them constantly. My solution was sterile medical latex gloves. Now I could go outside my room, my "safe place", and do those things. Of course, I wouldn't sit on any household furniture because my parents aren't mysophobes themselves. The only places I will sit inside the house are my computer chair and my bed. I have clothes that I consider "outside clothes" and won't wear them anywhere else, due to my belief that they're contaminated beyond what a run through the washing machine will fix. I refuse to wear t-shirts outside the house, and when I do leave the house, I only wear long sleeve shirts, even in the dead of summer. I have one pair of pants that I haven't worn outside in a very long time, and due to the number of washes it's been through since then, I consider it safe. They're the only pair I wear inside the house. If they're not available, I'll stroll around in my boxers instead. Right now, I'm in college, and it's hellacious. I'm in a IT (computer) program that totally suits my skills and abilities. The problem is, I'm going to a school, a public building, a prime breeding ground for filth and disease. I can only imagine what's crawling around inside the computers and the desks and the chairs and everything inside that school. I cringe touching the keyboards, mice, and repair tools that are given to me. I have to handle wiring that's been on the floor for quite some time. When I come home, I dispose of my clothes in the laundry, and wash my hands furiously with antibacterial soap under hot water for at least 10-15 minutes, or until my hands become wrinkled and dried up, void of anything threatening. I then air dry my hands inside my room (I don't dare use any of the towels for my hands), and proceed to use the sanitizer on them for good measure. Then, I spend half an hour in the shower scrubbing the filth from my skin and all parts of my body. After coming out, drying off with a towel I've designated as clean, and throwing on my clothes, I finally sit down in front of my computer for the night. The whole process takes at least an hour if not more. This is my life folks. I'm not proud of this phobia, I'm quite frankly miserable with it, and it's alienated about 99.9% of any friends I had, and the one I do have left is oftentimes left scratching his head, knowing something is off about me, but never admitting it to him. We're not really that close anyway, so it doesn't matter. I'm genuinely shocked that my girlfriend hasn't given up on me after 3 1/2 years. I've thought about popping the question on our 4th anniversary next year because she means that much to me, but if I'm still this way by then, I won't do it, because I refuse to put anyone through the rigorous routine of having to live with me. I can't get any help until college is done in November, just because of the chunk of my schedule it eats up. This rant doesn't even come close to encompassing what I endure daily, but it's a start.

Please tell me there's someone out there who understands. Some days I just can't cope... :cry:
 

chris87

Well-known member
I can't say that I'm anywhere near as extreme as you, but I do have an obsession with newness/perfection.

I have a lot of clothes that I bought, and they all have tags on them. I don't want to wear them, because I'm afraid that they won't look as nice, or that they'll get dirty. I know it's ridiculous, but I can't help it.

I'm also obsessed with my car. I hate to drive it, because I'm afraid that I will wear out the interior or make the car less new. When I leave the house, I have to wash my hands, because I don't want to get my keys dirty or get dirt in my car.

I notice these same type of habits with everything I do. I like all of my possessions to be perfect, and it's sometimes unrealistic.
 

afterforever

Active member
chris87 said:
I can't say that I'm anywhere near as extreme as you, but I do have an obsession with newness/perfection.

I have a lot of clothes that I bought, and they all have tags on them. I don't want to wear them, because I'm afraid that they won't look as nice, or that they'll get dirty. I know it's ridiculous, but I can't help it.

I'm also obsessed with my car. I hate to drive it, because I'm afraid that I will wear out the interior or make the car less new. When I leave the house, I have to wash my hands, because I don't want to get my keys dirty or get dirt in my car.

I notice these same type of habits with everything I do. I like all of my possessions to be perfect, and it's sometimes unrealistic.

I can totally relate to the newness aspect of what you're talking about. I'm the exact same way with my CDs and DVDs. They stay inside a closed cabinet 24/7, and only occasionally will I take one out to listen to or watch, because of the process I have to go through just to open the doors and handle one in the first place. It's ridiculous really - I've had some of those DVDs for 6 years, and because of this obsession, they look as new as the moment I tore off the plastic. All because I'm afraid of blemishing them in any way.

And I agree - it's all extremely unrealistic. Actually knowing that it's irrational, but still carrying it out like some mindless droid is one of the most frustrating parts of this. It's like being on the outside looking in and going, "What the hell am I doing?" but being completely powerless against it. Like I said, I can really relate.
 

Irina77

New member
mysophobia problem

hello. i also have cleaning and washing problem. but mine is even more difficult than yours. for example how i do the laundry.
1. I put in the wahing powder
2. Check if it is there for a minute or so
3.I put things into washing machine
4. I wipe the washing machine with the wet cleaning towels
5. I wash the ropes used for hanging clothes on with soap
6. take a shower washing completely with soap several times for 1 hour or so
7. I get out of shower
then naked as all towels are considered dirty or there is no place to put them in bathroom where it is clean to my mind
8. I open the washing machine
9. wash hands
10. I take wet clothes for hanging to dry on the balcony each separately
11.before collecting clothes when they are dry i also take a shower for 1 hour or so
12. wash hands
13. put the clothes in the drawer in a particular order.
And if smbdy comes into the bathroom when the washing load is being done I have to redo everything again. So I spent lots of money on washing powder and soap and its so exsausting that I can do only one load of washing once a week.
Besides I also have the same trouble about sitting down in public places. so I wipe off my chair at work with wet cleaning towels.
I am also scared of cleaning ladies and have to wash my clothes and myself if any of them comes close to me.
What treatment did u use? I was prescribed solian 600mg for 3 months, then zyprexa 5mg for 6 months - no help at all but gained 10kg. Now I started fluoxetine (same as prozac) 20mg and sonapaks 20mg. After the start on monday keep on sleeping the whole week. Also tried several therapists but they did not help me at all. I plan to find a therapist for the behavior therapy now.
Thanks for your ideas
 

afterforever

Active member
Re: mysophobia problem

Irina77 said:
hello. i also have cleaning and washing problem. but mine is even more difficult than yours. for example how i do the laundry.
1. I put in the wahing powder
2. Check if it is there for a minute or so
3.I put things into washing machine
4. I wipe the washing machine with the wet cleaning towels
5. I wash the ropes used for hanging clothes on with soap
6. take a shower washing completely with soap several times for 1 hour or so
7. I get out of shower
then naked as all towels are considered dirty or there is no place to put them in bathroom where it is clean to my mind
8. I open the washing machine
9. wash hands
10. I take wet clothes for hanging to dry on the balcony each separately
11.before collecting clothes when they are dry i also take a shower for 1 hour or so
12. wash hands
13. put the clothes in the drawer in a particular order.
And if smbdy comes into the bathroom when the washing load is being done I have to redo everything again. So I spent lots of money on washing powder and soap and its so exsausting that I can do only one load of washing once a week.
Besides I also have the same trouble about sitting down in public places. so I wipe off my chair at work with wet cleaning towels.
I am also scared of cleaning ladies and have to wash my clothes and myself if any of them comes close to me.
What treatment did u use? I was prescribed solian 600mg for 3 months, then zyprexa 5mg for 6 months - no help at all but gained 10kg. Now I started fluoxetine (same as prozac) 20mg and sonapaks 20mg. After the start on monday keep on sleeping the whole week. Also tried several therapists but they did not help me at all. I plan to find a therapist for the behavior therapy now.
Thanks for your ideas

I haven't actually taken any treatments yet. As a matter of fact, I haven't even seen a counselor or therapist or anything like that yet. And just reading your account of your daily routines...you sound like how I know I would be if I didn't live with my parents and had to miserably conceal my tendencies. So I use towels and that stuff because I have no choice. I know where some of them have been, because my parents do the laundry and fold them, but I try and block it out of my head to avoid the trauma that would be associated with that realization.

I'm actually surprised to find someone like you whose tendencies so closely reflect mine. Would you mind if I e-mailed you to discuss things further?
 

bushica

Member
hey afterforever,

i dont know so much about your problem i have a different kind of ocd..but the best advice i can give you is that please do seek counseling you'd be surprised at how much it would help you, please seek therapy and one more thing you're very lucky to have that girl, hold on to her and for her seek therapy and then pop the question on your fourth anniversary like you've planned :) i'm sure it will all work out for you!
 
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