successful a na lysis?

Earthcircle

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Has anyone here had a successful a na lysis? If so, could you please tell us what made it successful? Could you also explain how it helped you? I had tons of psycho a na lytically oriented psychotherapy, and got nothing from it. I even view my failure in a na lysis as somehow tightly connected to my failure in life. If you describe your success, it might help me better understand my failure.
 

Earthcircle

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Note that some sort of automatic censoring system on this website makes it difficult for me to complete the following phrase without putting spaces between letters: Freudian psycho ...
 
I've had the odd anaIysis, but none ever resulted in any useful, practical changes in my life .. so i guess they failed?

I even view my failure in a na lysis as somehow tightly connected to my failure in life
I think they could be somehow related. I believe that in order to "move foward" one really firstly, needs to be able to identify (eg via successful anaIysis) the problems they have.

If you describe your success, it might help me better understand my failure
You can also learn much from failure, yours and others.
 

Earthcircle

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One problem I had in therapy generally, and I don't just mean psychoanelytic psychotherapy, is that the therapist will think I'm lying when I'm not. That is very frustrating. How does one deal with that? Often, it is accompanied with the therapist getting really angry, which makes it even harder for someone avoidant like me to handle.
 

Lavinialuna

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I have had a psychiatrist diagnose me and GET IT ALL WRONG. I cant' stand that. He diagnosed me with something I know I don't have. Drives me crazy. Now I am willing to admit that I am messed up, I have severe anxiety, and would go so far as to say I am avoidant, but his diagnosis was horrible and it bugs me that I have to live with it on my record. This guy barely knows me at all and he labels me. Nice.
 

Earthcircle

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I have had a psychiatrist diagnose me and GET IT ALL WRONG. I cant' stand that. He diagnosed me with something I know I don't have. Drives me crazy. Now I am willing to admit that I am messed up, I have severe anxiety, and would go so far as to say I am avoidant, but his diagnosis was horrible and it bugs me that I have to live with it on my record. This guy barely knows me at all and he labels me. Nice.

Okay, I hate to talk about this, but someone brought it up. I was discussing this in another online forum and someone, who claimed to be a therapist, was trying to convince everyone else there that I was lying. But here it is.

When I was 18, I saw a university counsellor. He ordered me to see an on-campus psychiatrist with no explanation. I was ordered by the psychiatrist to take a medication with no explanation whatsoever as to what sort of medication it was or why I was taking. I obtained the case notes years later: they were treating me for schizophrenia. The only problem is that there were no symptoms: no delusions (that includes paranoia), no ideas of reference, no hallucinations (that includes voices). Nothing. The medication was a nightmare and actually caused derealization, panic, and visual hallucinations. I was kept on the medication for 6 months until I began to develop tardive dyskinesia in my tongue. The medication had very disruptive effects on my life with no value whatsoever.

Okay, that's what happened. Call me a liar, but I'm not. Ever since I found out what happened, which was over a decade later, I have been very suspicious of the mental health professions.

In case you're skeptical about case notes being kept for over a decade: well, they were. Don't ask me to explain it, but they obviously were.
 

Kiwong

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I saw a GP once who referred me to a psychiatrist, I didn't go, I wasn't interested in what drugs I could be given. I've seen two psychologists and one diagnosed Generalised Anxiety disorder and the other Social Anxiety Disorder.

The diagnosis wasn't important because the treatment was much the same. And it is the treatments that help me I am most interested in. They relate to exercise, diet, relaxation, mindfulness. They are some things that have given me some relief.
 
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Earthcircle

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I saw a GP once who referred me to a psychiatrist, I didn't go, I wasn't interested in what drugs I could be given. I've seen two psychologists and one diagnosed Generalised Anxiety disorder and the other Social Anxiety Disorder.

The diagnosis wasn't important because the treatment was much the same. And it is the treatments that help me I am most interested in. They relate to exercise, diet, relaxation, mindfulness. They are some things that have given me some relief.

I assume they didn't prescribe Trilafon. If your problem is GAD or SAD, you're not likely to get something as nasty as Trilafon, which is what was prescribed for me.
 

Lavinialuna

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Okay, I hate to talk about this, but someone brought it up. I was discussing this in another online forum and someone, who claimed to be a therapist, was trying to convince everyone else there that I was lying. But here it is.

When I was 18, I saw a university counsellor. He ordered me to see an on-campus psychiatrist with no explanation. I was ordered by the psychiatrist to take a medication with no explanation whatsoever as to what sort of medication it was or why I was taking. I obtained the case notes years later: they were treating me for schizophrenia. The only problem is that there were no symptoms: no delusions (that includes paranoia), no ideas of reference, no hallucinations (that includes voices). Nothing. The medication was a nightmare and actually caused derealization, panic, and visual hallucinations. I was kept on the medication for 6 months until I began to develop tardive dyskinesia in my tongue. The medication had very disruptive effects on my life with no value whatsoever.

Okay, that's what happened. Call me a liar, but I'm not. Ever since I found out what happened, which was over a decade later, I have been very suspicious of the mental health professions.

In case you're skeptical about case notes being kept for over a decade: well, they were. Don't ask me to explain it, but they obviously were.

So sorry that happened to you! It's hard to trust some of these people. Someone diagnosed me as bi-polar once when I was a teen, made no sense. Of course it didn't stick because it was nonsense....
Hope you always get a second opinion from here on out! medications can be dangerous!
 

Earthcircle

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So sorry that happened to you! It's hard to trust some of these people. Someone diagnosed me as bi-polar once when I was a teen, made no sense. Of course it didn't stick because it was nonsense....
Hope you always get a second opinion from here on out! medications can be dangerous!

I was also diagnosed as bipolar, even though I don't have mood swings. But I've had lots of therapists and psychiatrists and, it seems, sooner or later you get every label. I sometimes think the labels really reflect something in the mental health professional and not the patient.
 

Lavinialuna

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What I heard was that they need to label you something so they can bill the insurance. A therapist told me that. He said not pay attention to the diagnosis, just so the treatment was appropriate. In your case, the first treatment wasn't appropriate, but in general, I would like to hope most of them are!
 

Earthcircle

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It was the therapist who arranged the meeting between me and the psychiatrist. In other words, the whole thing was the therapist's idea, and it's obvious from the case notes that the therapist was emphasizing how psychotic I supposedly was even when the psychiatrist began to have doubts. I wonder if the therapist was a psychopath -- especially given that he once devoted an entire session to verbally abusing me for no apparent reason.
 

Earthcircle

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That is horrible. Hope they aren't practicing anymore!

He's the director of a counseling center for students in another university. Nothing I can do about it. I filed tons of complaints, which were always dismissed -- probably on the assumption that I am a schizophrenic who lacks insight. The psychiatrist is also still practicing but very old by now. The original events occurred in 1983-85.
 

Earthcircle

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It probably goes without saying that succeeding with such a complaint is not easy. The patient is assumed to be severely mentally ill, which casts doubt upon anything the patient says. The patient could be, for example, a pathological liar or genuinely psychotic and simply in denial about it. I've gotten such reactions when I raise these matters in discussion forums online, although not here.
 
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