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Louco

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That sounds like a fault of the employers rather than women wanting equal rights.

What exactly are they guilty of?

Thats like me getting mad that Mexicans are taking the minimum wage jobs, but they're not forcing companies to hire them. As for the preference for a woman, that sounds like another equality issue that I would think feminism would be against. Say that woman wants to do more than answer phones for a living. But no, thats a womans job. What if MY dreams are to be a secretary? No thats a womans job. Its not good for any of us.

But this is why we need more freedom, not less. If you set up a business, no one forces you to hire women or men to do what you need.

There is no issue with how much women are paid, the circunstances defining your salary are things like supply and demand, experience, skills and so on, not gender. When the feminists don't make stuff up, they twist reality with their nonsensical beliefs.

Employers don't act based on ideology or personal preferences, they just want profit. Asking for women when hiring for a specific job where women usually have more experience narrows the search, that's all. There are plenty women in CEO position in our society, do you think they use a different criteria when hiring their secretaries?

It's unacceptable a government try to dictate how much you must pay or who you must hire because of gender, any society going this way will end like Cuba.

As for maternity leave, the only way we would make that fair is if we alter everyone's anatomy so that we're all physically the same.

Of course. I'm not the one claiming men and women are literally equal. :p
 

this_portrait

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This is a video about what the Feminist Party of Sweden have in mind for their country, which is already seen as one of the most egalitarian in the world. It's crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHKqbAwixHI

This channel is awesome, it's frightening what is happening to Sweden.

The description of that political party sounds exactly like the overwhelming majority of feminist college kids and academics at American universities. So glad I'm done with school for good.
 

S_Spartan

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Oh Jesus, one of my cousins shared that post a couple days ago. He's basically using the same arguing points for other men that some women get from other women (especially the whole "you're selfish" nonsense).

The comment section is pure gold!

I raise my middle finger to that self righteous douchbag!
 

Megaten

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Oh for gods sake....i dont understand why some people cant just mind their own business and not worry about what other people are doing with their lives. If he's doing what hes "supposed" to be doing as a man/father/law abiding citizen or whatever, whats it matter to him what the rest of the world is up to? I regret asking you to share this because I inadvertently helped spread his absolutely pointless beliefs.


Welp I just answered my question. Hes portraying a certain image for something and I bet it has more to do with money than morality.
 
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zharl

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Disclaimer: I don't agree with the smug 31-year-old.

Sorry to say it guys, but I am a (wait for it) feminist. I am a feminist in the sense that I strive for equal opportunity and treatment in all facets of life. This means that I would think that things like maternity leave should be available to both parents, as a new baby is a big responsibility for both mothers and fathers.

Furthermore, I am a feminist because I find certain pressures on men to be toxic. Pressures like the expectation that men can't show emotion or weakness--except for anger of course, have to be the breadwinners/earn the highest income in a household, and the belief that men cannot be nurturing parents to their children. That being said, as a U.S. citizen, I fall into the stereotype of being woefully ignorant of the rest of the world's cultures, so I can't say that these types of beliefs regarding men are in any way universal.

I believe--as has already been mentioned in this thread--that feminism in its truest form is beneficial to both men and women. But I'm also a hard-left, liberal nut job, so what do I know? :D
 

zharl

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Also, I don't hate you Strong! I think you're frustrated and you're experiencing a lot of obstacles in life. :)

Did you ever get a chance to look into the online counseling services?
 

NamiraWilhelm

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I had no idea there were so many dinosaurs in this forum. But what doesn't surprise me are social phobic men directing/blaming their issues on females, that seems a pretty common trait.
 

Odo

Banned
Disclaimer: I don't agree with the smug 31-year-old.

Sorry to say it guys, but I am a (wait for it) feminist. I am a feminist in the sense that I strive for equal opportunity and treatment in all facets of life. This means that I would think that things like maternity leave should be available to both parents, as a new baby is a big responsibility for both mothers and fathers.

This is pretty much what I think too.

The Internet has made it a lot easier to find fringe elements and posers. It has also made it a lot easier to take things out of context in order to demonize an entire movement. But hating on feminism for that is pretty much in the same league as hating on Islam because of terrorism.There are a lot of different perspectives within the movement, and not all of them are extreme.

Personally, I prefer the idea of no gender stereotypes to going back to 'women are happier when men have the power' or whatever it is the 'red pill' types are supporting.
 

Louco

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Sorry to say it guys, but I am a (wait for it) feminist. I am a feminist in the sense that I strive for equal opportunity and treatment in all facets of life. This means that I would think that things like maternity leave should be available to both parents, as a new baby is a big responsibility for both mothers and fathers.

Ok, but when you create a right, you also have to force someone else to pay for it. What about the small businesses which wouldn't be able to survive losing their workers for months while still paying for them? They are the vast majority of businesses by the way, the owners of capitalist empires are an insignificant minority.

I mean, you can support that idea anyway, but you must ponder if the consequences in the real world wouldn't do more harm than good to those families you are trying to give a better life, with the rising unemployment, lower wages and a weaker economy.

That being said, I think one of our biggest problems in society these days is how kids are growing without receiving proper education and care from their parents. However it's not just the busy modern life, people are actually excusing themselves of raising their children, thinking that's what school is for while they just have to feed and give a bed under a roof.

Furthermore, I am a feminist because I find certain pressures on men to be toxic. Pressures like the expectation that men can't show emotion or weakness--except for anger of course, have to be the breadwinners/earn the highest income in a household, and the belief that men cannot be nurturing parents to their children. That being said, as a U.S. citizen, I fall into the stereotype of being woefully ignorant of the rest of the world's cultures, so I can't say that these types of beliefs regarding men are in any way universal.

I believe--as has already been mentioned in this thread--that feminism in its truest form is beneficial to both men and women. But I'm also a hard-left, liberal nut job, so what do I know? :D

I will never understand why americans hate and vilify their own culture so much. From here I see a country that have always done more good to the world than bad, with prosperity, development and civil rights like nowhere else and decent people in general.
 

Graeme1988

Hie yer hence from me heath!
I'm all for equality. But as far as feminism goes, ma yin issue with it is how these mental left-wing, hypersensitive nutters huv hijacked it in many ways. How they'll quote the definition of feminism, then proceed to bemoan how men huv f**k it aw up, therefore women have fix society. While demanding more rights and privileges for themselves, at the expense of men and gender equality. No-one sees the irony there?

And ye can't even express a differing opinion to theirs, but you've gotta agree with a feminist's arguments cuz they make so much sense, right?

Also, demanding more women should be involved in male dominated areas and hobbies, which, to me, doesnae really do them an favours. I mean they're more than welcome to play video games or sports or whatever it may be. But it's should be by choice, not because women are under-represented. Ah wouldnae think any less of them.

And the idea that women can do anything men can do is laughable to me. Or the fact that feminists sometimes says women are better than men. Where did that idea come from? And when did feminism move from being about equality between men and women, to women being superior to men?

Oh, and when it comes jokes, comedy and political correctness, it would be nice if feminists had a sense of humour and realised that maybe the comedians telling jokes that could be interrupted by some as racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic - but are definitely politically incorrect - might actually be f**kin' jokin', no?

But, mainly, it's the double standards within modern day feminism that piss me off. And how quickly they are to overreact and take offence at something they didn't like nowadays.

But then again, I'm not really qualified to speak with any authority on this matter, since ah raised by bitter, man-hating feminist mother and 2 older feminist sisters. So common sense and rational thinking were in short supply when ah wus growin' up. Still couldnae tell ye how ah managed to avoid being a male feminist. Oh, wait that's right, I frequently point out the flaws in their BS feminist arguments.

As far as marriage, commitment and huvin kids goes. Shouldn't that really be a choice, at the end of the day? Not something men or women should under some social obligation to do.

And given the way some women act nowadays because of this feminist indoctrination - in my view of my generation and younger - why would men want to commit to a long-term relationship or get married? The family courts are so biased against men, anyway. You'd be financially and emotionally fuct if the wife divorces ya, especially when comes to child support, custody and alimony.

Feminists constantly going on about how they don't need men is also another reason why men and women are so divided, I think. Because they've been saying that for long enough now, that men are starting to take the hint and just leave women be, and say they're not worth the hassle.

It's kinda weird that feminists want to treat as equal to men, but still want men be chivalrous towards them, and treat them like ladies.

Sorry, if anybuddy takes umbrage with this post - just giving ma view on the topic. Or more specifically 21st century feminism.

Just to be clear, ah didnae write this with the intention of startin' any arguments with anybuddy who is a feminist. Also, this was written very little put into it. So it'll be a bit rambling, disjointed and obviously wrong... But feel free to disagree with me and view ma words here as an unjustified, uncalled for kick in the c**t.
 
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Bo592

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This youtube always make me think how unfair men have it. if women really stood for equal rights they would of won a long time ago because some men would like to be equality too. But in not about equal rights it about women rights. The way the man got food thrown on him and the cop talk to him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvoWBbYxdwc
 

S_Spartan

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I had no idea there were so many dinosaurs in this forum. But what doesn't surprise me are social phobic men directing/blaming their issues on females, that seems a pretty common trait.

I don't think guys are blaming females, I think guys are blaming an idea, feminism. An idea that has been pushed by nearly every institution relentlessly in the western world for the past 4 decades.

It's interesting that when men start pushing back they are always told that they must have some weakness or issue making them act that way or that they must want to return to some kind of patriarchy.
 

zharl

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Ok, but when you create a right, you also have to force someone else to pay for it. What about the small businesses which wouldn't be able to survive losing their workers for months while still paying for them? They are the vast majority of businesses by the way, the owners of capitalist empires are an insignificant minority.

I mean, you can support that idea anyway, but you must ponder if the consequences in the real world wouldn't do more harm than good to those families you are trying to give a better life, with the rising unemployment, lower wages and a weaker economy.

That being said, I think one of our biggest problems in society these days is how kids are growing without receiving proper education and care from their parents. However it's not just the busy modern life, people are actually excusing themselves of raising their children, thinking that's what school is for while they just have to feed and give a bed under a roof.



I will never understand why americans hate and vilify their own culture so much. From here I see a country that have always done more good to the world than bad, with prosperity, development and civil rights like nowhere else and decent people in general.

You lost me, up until the end.:idontknow:

I suppose there's so much self criticism because that too is also a part of American culture. Pointing out the things you don't like and being vocal about them. If you look at our current political cycle, it kind of shows. XD

Also, from a more analytical sense, I suppose it's easy to grow complacent with one's own experience and culture, and see the faults with it when you get comfortable. It's easier to look at everything that is wrong, than to see the good, sometimes.
 

Metal_isthe_Answer

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Link is so pretty, that I dont think it'll make much of a difference haha. The only dude prettier than Link is Cloud Strife.

Ha, very true.
I'm a guy but I almost always play as women in games. I would love to see a female Link, he's a silent character anyway so I don't see how it's a problem. As for other games, it usually boils down to the voice actors; in Mass Effect for example Jennifer Hale's performance was far above the actor for male Shepard. The same could be said for Saints Row, hell, even Skyrim.
 
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