Major project to figure out water properties & success rate

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adioshh

Member
hello
I speak very little English, only Spanish, use the translator to send message
I hope you can understand

Took several years using iontophoresis.
Use multiple devices like the Drionic, but that has worked for some years is the Ionomat
Until early last year, it has worked very well using tap water in my town
Maintenance was carrying 2 or 3 sessions per week

A year ago I moved to town, and since then I've gotten work just
I realized that the problem was in the water, and I started researching
Use tap water in my current city hot, cold, baking soda, salt ..... and nothing, the effectiveness is not the same
I started to think about buying bottled water, and bought Solan de Cabras, and I worked at had less effect contratio even water my hometown
To rule because it was not water but the apparatus, spent several days in my hometown gave me several sessions and it worked again
I brought water there, and it works better than the water from my current city, but not as effectively noticed a year ago.
Perhaps because it is not picking up water upon which to use in bottled water although this

After this, I contacted and sent a laboratory to analyze the two waters.
3 The components of the water used:

1) Water in my hometown (where I work):
pH 7.7
Conductivity at 20 ° 69μS/cm
Calcium 4.3 mg / L
Magnesium <0.50 mg / L
Sodium 7.4 mg / L
IPC hardness 1.3 ° F
Nitrate 2.2 mg / L
Chlorides 7.8 mg / L
Sulfate 10mg / L
Bicarbonates <25mg / L HCO3
SAR 1.0
TDS <30 mg / L
Free residual chlorine 0.08 mg / L

2) water new city(ineffectiveness)
pH 7.8
Conductivity at 20 ° 90μS/cm
Calcium 6.6mg / L
Magnesium 1.2mg / L
Sodium 9mg / L
IPC hardness 2.2 ° F
Nitrate 1.5mg / L
Chloride 10mg / L
Sulfate 11mg / L
Bicarbonates <25mg / L HCO3
SAR 0.9
TDS <30 mg / L
Free residual chlorine <0.05 mg / L

3) Solan de cabras (no effectiveness) is bottled mineral water
Solids 261
Bicarbonates 285.8
Sulfates 21.3
Fluoride <0.2
Magnesium 25.1
1.1 Potassium
7.9 Chlorides
Calcium 58.3
5.2 Sodium
pH 7.82


could influence the pH?
According Evian comets me was very good and has a pH of 7.18
The one I worked very well was my city water with a pH of 7.7
The water in my new city has a pH of 7.8 and I was not very effective
The goat solan water has a pH of 7.82 and I was effective
rainwater has a pH of 5.65, and there are people from some forum that has worked very well

The more ph perhaps less work?
Perhaps the difference is this, Solan de Cabras has many more bicarbonates and not working, and the water in my city has no such

regards
 
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ImNotMyIllness

Well-known member
That previous comment was unwarranted. A lot of people in this forum suffer from HH, which is probably a result of our anxiety.
I wish I cold help. I don't know anything about iontophoresis. Good luck!
 
Lamb

Lamb

Well-known member
adioshh said:
hello
I speak very little English, only Spanish, use the translator to send message
I hope you can understand

Took several years using iontophoresis.
Use multiple devices like the Drionic, but that has worked for some years is the Ionomat
Until early last year, it has worked very well using tap water in my town
Maintenance was carrying 2 or 3 sessions per week

A year ago I moved to town, and since then I've gotten work just
I realized that the problem was in the water, and I started researching
Use tap water in my current city hot, cold, baking soda, salt ..... and nothing, the effectiveness is not the same
I started to think about buying bottled water, and bought Solan de Cabras, and I worked at had less effect contratio even water my hometown
To rule because it was not water but the apparatus, spent several days in my hometown gave me several sessions and it worked again
I brought water there, and it works better than the water from my current city, but not as effectively noticed a year ago.
Perhaps because it is not picking up water upon which to use in bottled water although this

After this, I contacted and sent a laboratory to analyze the two waters.
3 The components of the water used:

1) Water in my hometown (where I work):
pH 7.7
Conductivity at 20 ° 69μS/cm
Calcium 4.3 mg / L
Magnesium <0.50 mg / L
Sodium 7.4 mg / L
IPC hardness 1.3 ° F
Nitrate 2.2 mg / L
Chlorides 7.8 mg / L
Sulfate 10mg / L
Bicarbonates <25mg / L HCO3
SAR 1.0
TDS <30 mg / L
Free residual chlorine 0.08 mg / L

2) water new city(ineffectiveness)
pH 7.8
Conductivity at 20 ° 90μS/cm
Calcium 6.6mg / L
Magnesium 1.2mg / L
Sodium 9mg / L
IPC hardness 2.2 ° F
Nitrate 1.5mg / L
Chloride 10mg / L
Sulfate 11mg / L
Bicarbonates <25mg / L HCO3
SAR 0.9
TDS <30 mg / L
Free residual chlorine <0.05 mg / L

3) Solan de cabras (no effectiveness) is bottled mineral water
Solids 261
Bicarbonates 285.8
Sulfates 21.3
Fluoride <0.2
Magnesium 25.1
1.1 Potassium
7.9 Chlorides
Calcium 58.3
5.2 Sodium
pH 7.82


could influence the pH?
According Evian comets me was very good and has a pH of 7.18
The one I worked very well was my city water with a pH of 7.7
The water in my new city has a pH of 7.8 and I was not very effective
The goat solan water has a pH of 7.82 and I was effective
rainwater has a pH of 5.65, and there are people from some forum that has worked very well

The more ph perhaps less work?
Perhaps the difference is this, Solan de Cabras has many more bicarbonates and not working, and the water in my city has no such

regards
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¿Esto tiene alguna relacion con ansiedad? ¿O con sudar excesivo?
No comprendemos la pregunta pues no somos estudiantes de ciencia.
 
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adioshh

Member
It is a study of the importance of water to cure iontophoresis hyperhidrosis
To date, many people worked iontophoresis for hands or feet and sometimes not, and this as already discussed in other post is due to water
I discuss the properties of three types of water samples analyzed from different places
water in the first it has worked for years
in the second it has worked little water
Solan de Cabras Water no worked
the question is believe that the water component which causes for example the water was run first and in the second iontophoresis not

This is to know which components of water are needed to make an effective iontophoresis
also spoke of the pH of the water

Sorry if I did not express well, thanks and greetings
 
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hyp-hi

Well-known member
Thanks for sharing your results. I think there is a good chance that the type of water does effect how well the ionto works. I'm thinking maybe it is effected by one of the other elements tested because the pH levels between the samples tested are similar.
 
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adioshh

Member
some believe it must have many bicarbonates and sulfates and chlorides few
others believe it is calcium, sodium or potassium (components that influence to excrete sweat)
you think?
 
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Sprawling

Well-known member
My studies show that it is more than just water that effects the outcome of ionto. I live in two different areas about 7 hours apart. Area A the water works fine. Area B the water doesn't work. When I bring 5 gallon jugs of A water to area B, ionto still barely works. If this was all about the water, Ionto should work with area A water no matter where I go, yet it doesn't.

My conclusion is even though water is a component, it's also your individual body chemistry, emotional state, altitude (not attitude), certain physical ailments such as fibromyalgia etc.

Rain water in area B worked amazing one year. The following year it didn't work at all.
The water theory is only part of the equation.

One member here does ionto treatments with her local standard tap water and it works fine. Her daughter who lives in the same house, uses the same water, ionto doesn't work at all.

Again this shows that ionto is not just about the water for everyone, other times it can be simply changing the water.

Sorry to burst the scientific bubble of measuring ph levels.
 
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adioshh

Member
and if the source of energy, electricity?
If the appliance works well, and the same water in a place you do well and not in another, perhaps electricity. Could it be?
It's very interesting what you mention, think another factor that can influence
 
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CharlesN

Well-known member
Good luck Adios. I hope you figure it out - it will benefit Palmer HH sufferers the world over if you do. Your translated English is fine and easily understood.

Thanks,
 
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Sprawling

Well-known member
Not only can another factor influence, it does. I've use the Fischer MD1a unit since 2005 and been using a Pulsed Galvanic Stimulator. Both yield the same results. Just that the PGS is way more comfortable to use, virtually pain free.

I highly doubt the electricity plays a role. I think it has to do more with a compatibility issue with our bodies.

Area A = Salt Lake City, Ut
Area B = Las Vegas, Nv

I'd be interesting in studying or testing someone from either of these areas.
 
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