How I cured my hyperhydrosis FOR FREE

I remember going to the dermatologist for the first time and being told the harsh truth: botox costs thousands of dollars.. iontophoresis isn't an option here because they've stopped doing it... surgery can have severe side effects etc etc

My sweaty palms were something that followed me everywhere.. Man was my prom embarrassing... All those dancing lesions where I had to hold this poor girls hands while my palms were ridiculously wet.

Obviously this had a big impact on my social life.. Going out and avoiding contact with other people and trying to develop my own secret handshakes with them so that I wouldn't have to touch their dry palms.

Eh, how much emotional pain because of wet palms...

It's silly if you think about it. I mean, really think about it.
Think about how silly it is to be concerned about something so trivial...

But then I found a special video on youtube.

At first I was sceptical and I waited for people to test this concept... But in time I decided to buy two 9V batteries just like this one:



I took two big plates and put alu foil in them.. Poured a lot of water in there and connected it with two batteries.

The first time I put my hands in it my palms went really red after the treatment. I've sent a message to Shanon who put that video on the internet and discussed a few things with him and learned that it's normal to have red hands after the treatment..

So it's all good...

I haven't noticed any results in the first two days but the third day.. My god, the third day was actually fun and weird at the same time. My palms started insanely sweating! Sweat was literally pouring from them. I started thinking that I should just drop the treatment.

But I sticked with it. And by day 5 I noticed something incredible. A small part of my right palm was completely dry. I inspected it and tried to make it sweat but I just couldn't do it! It was 100% dry. How is this possible?? I felt this beautiful feeling and realized that Shanons design really works. It really works...

The next day something even more amazing happened... My hands went completely dry. For the first time in my life my hands were normal. I tried everything but I just couldn't get any part of my palms to sweat.

How great it is to be normal.

All those years of pain and frustration.. All those moments of total embarrassment became irrelevant now. If only I knew it was so simple.

The next day I went out to this party and I could hold hands with girls. I could dance and completely enjoy myself. I could be careless. How much fun I had that night!
And to think that other people can enjoy themselves like that each and every day of their life...

I can feel how something changed in me.

And I still can't understand how could it be so simple...

Because really... Who would have thought that two batteries and a bit of water can change your life?

If you don't know about what video I'm talking about click here and discover if it's able to change your life too: http://youtube.com/watch?v=WjPTacmAi3o

Thats awesome it worked for you! Unfortunately it doesn't work for everyone. :x

I'm willing to bet that it works for everyone if the conditions are right.

See there are many many variables with this treatment:

1.) The batteries.. Two different 9V batteries might provide different amperages... One might be enough, while the other might be too low
2.) For someone 18V will be enough, for someone else 27V.. and for some 12V will be enough
3.) The hardness of water. If the water is not hard enough the treatment won't be efficient. In case of "soft" water add salt or baking soda
4.) The length of the treatment.. some will need 10minute treatments, some 20..
5.) The usage of the right containers. Some people use plastic containers and I'd speculate that this might be a reason why they aren't seeing results.
6.) Persistence, some people have really low tolerance for pain and will stop after 6 or 7 treatments while the treatment could be effective after 10 or a bit more...
7.) The positioning of hands - are they freely floating or are they touching the surface..
8.) Frequentness... Are you doing it once every day? Once every week?
9.) Materials...
and the list could go on and on.

One has to experiment...

PlaceboEffect said:

I'm willing to bet that it works for everyone if the conditions are right.

See there are many many variables with this treatment:

1.) The batteries.. Two different 9V batteries might provide different amperages... One might be enough, while the other might be too low
2.) For someone 18V will be enough, for someone else 27V.. and for some 12V will be enough
3.) The hardness of water. If the water is not hard enough the treatment won't be efficient. In case of "soft" water add salt or baking soda
4.) The length of the treatment.. some will need 10minute treatments, some 20..
5.) The usage of the right containers. Some people use plastic containers and I'd speculate that this might be a reason why they aren't seeing results.
6.) Persistence, some people have really low tolerance for pain and will stop after 6 or 7 treatments while the treatment could be effective after 10 or a bit more...
7.) The positioning of hands - are they freely floating or are they touching the surface..
8.) Frequentness... Are you doing it once every day? Once every week?
9.) Materials...
and the list could go on and on.

One has to experiment...

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I know, I know...

I'm really leaning towards trying it again, I think my nurse f'ed it up a few times. I also used plastic containers, and did it once a week.

How is this different from iontophoresis? Or are you saying that you were cured permanently?

This is not different from iontophoresis.

This is iontophoresis. But it's free...

Most of us who are looking to try iontophoresis would probably never have thought to try it at home, and when you think about it the whole concept is quite 'low tech'. It does seem worthwhile to try and "DIY" before or instead of purchasing a significantly more expensive device.
PlaceboEffect, thanks for sharing this useful and valuable information with us all!

PlaceboEffect said:

1.) The batteries.. Two different 9V batteries might provide different amperages... One might be enough, while the other might be too low
2.) For someone 18V will be enough, for someone else 27V.. and for some 12V will be enough
3.) The hardness of water. If the water is not hard enough the treatment won't be efficient. In case of "soft" water add salt or baking soda
4.) The length of the treatment.. some will need 10minute treatments, some 20..
5.) The usage of the right containers. Some people use plastic containers and I'd speculate that this might be a reason why they aren't seeing results.
6.) Persistence, some people have really low tolerance for pain and will stop after 6 or 7 treatments while the treatment could be effective after 10 or a bit more...
7.) The positioning of hands - are they freely floating or are they touching the surface..
8.) Frequentness... Are you doing it once every day? Once every week?
9.) Materials...

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To add to this list it has to be noted that quite an important discovery was made.

I quote:

Hi. We used and amp meter. The amps levels were different for each person. For me was 2.4amps, my father rated 6.4 and a friend the amperage was around 12amp. I barely felt some voltage on my hands under water with however my friend couldn't stay for more than 10 seconds because of tingle. Each body has different resistance to the circuit maybe depending on your weight, fat and water levels.

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- RafunkyMunguia, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjPTacmAi3o

Now as Shannon already pointed out in the youtube comment, there seems to be a typo RafunkyMunguia made as he talked about amps, where he was probably referring to miliamps.

However it's obvious that the iontophoresis machine I used will not provide the same results for someone else because their body might not pull the same current as mine does.

As hypothesized by RafunkyMunguia this is probably a result of different % of water/fat etc in our body.

I believe that this is the core problem for why iontophoresis "works" for some and it fails to produce results for others.

It's obvious that all you need to do is experiment and find that "sweet spot" where iontophoresis starts to work for you too.

I too have decided to go with the 'DIY' approach before shelling out for a machine, I saw shannon's youtube video about 2 weeks ago and thought id give it a go...im using 3x6v batteries, (im only using 3 of them atm to see how that goes, I might start using 4 next time) conneced with wires and clips to two big pie dishes exactly like shannon does in the youtube vid,
now, I dont know whether i'd say I was completely 'cured' or anything but i'd say my sweating has reduced by over half...my left palm-completely dry, my right palm-some little wet patches, my fingers on both hands are still sweating but its definately alot less than it was...

I had 7 treatments at hospital spread over a month, it had a strict protocol as I had to go on certain days, then I made my home machine the next month and did 7 treatments over 7 days (1 a day)...im wondering if anyone has some advice on how many treatments I should do a week/month...or maybe I should use all 4x6v batteries? I guess its all about experimenting, im pretty happy with the results I have so far, its so much better than it was...but still if people are getting better results any advice on how theyre doing it would be much appreciated!

I've seen that most people need 10 sessions (plus, minus two) in a row to completely get rid of it.

I'd suggest you keep doing it until it completely disappears. If after 12 days in a row it's still present, I'd amp the voltage (up to 24V) and if it persisted even after that I'd start adding a bit of salt in water.

Also, I speculate that the treatment is more efficient if your palms aren't touching the pans but are instead floating.

After you'll achieve 100% dryness you have to keep doing it approx. once every two weeks.

Good luck

Thankyou so much for your reply! im happy to say today im about 97% sweat free on my hands, just a wee little bit on the very tips of my fingers, at work I was so happy everyone thought I was on drugs lol!

thanks for your help, I was unsure how many treatment you were supposed to do after achieving dryness to 'top it up' but now I know! how is it going with you? I cant wait to go out and have some fun with my mates not worrying about my HH, I feel like I have a new lease of life!! :lol:

I'm glad to hear that it's working for you too.

I've actually gotten so accustomed to having dry hands that I didn't bother to use iontophoresis for more then 20 days which made my HH creep back.

Now I'm doing the treatment from the start once again and this time I've decided to keep doing the maintenance treatments.

By the way, if you feel a shock when you place your palms in water, try putting one palm in one container and after you've done that just put one finger of another hand in the other container and work your way in it this way.

So glad youve found a way which works for you today felt amazing, I really hope this lasts..

lol, thats the only problem with home-built machines, unless you were to attatch some sort of dimmer switch there is no way of gradually turning up the current slowly...the first time I did it I got a slight shock putting my hands in and again when the batteries were disconnected (my bf helped me) - it wasnt that painful tho,I found that putting both hands in at the same time gives me no shock, if I put them in one at a time it gives me a shock! I checked my batteries and theyre still packing out the same voltage so it isnt as if theyre running out..im definately getting used to it now tho, and im so happy I save myself all that money too!! the batteries are £3 each (x4) and then I just had to buy the wires and clips and two trays..Ive saved hundreds of pounds!

Hey, PlaceboEffect. I have an iontophoresis machine at home and have used it for around two months with varying results. My left hand is a LOT drier than my right, but the fingertips on both hands still sweat pretty badly.
I've never done more than five treatments consecutively. I also tried adding some baking soda- the current hurt alot more but failed to improve the results. Any suggestions to help me get drier? Thanks in advance.

Hey, a few questions for those who have been successful:

1. What containers did you use?
2. Would using a higher voltage be faster? Pain's not a big issue for me.
3. Is it better doing it at night or in the morning?
4. Any side effects? Mainly out of curiosity.
5. Any have information on how it really works? I have a vague idea but I'm quite interested now.

Cheers, I'll post when I've done it - will probably buy equipment this weekend.

hydroman123 said:

Hey, PlaceboEffect. I have an iontophoresis machine at home and have used it for around two months with varying results. My left hand is a LOT drier than my right, but the fingertips on both hands still sweat pretty badly.
I've never done more than five treatments consecutively. I also tried adding some baking soda- the current hurt alot more but failed to improve the results. Any suggestions to help me get drier? Thanks in advance.

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I don't know how exactly are you using it but here are the possible causes:

1. If your fingertips are always touching the pans this might be the cause for it. Instead let them float.

2. Fingertips are the last to get dry. To solve this we do more sessions even when 99% of our palms are dry. For example: if your hands got dry after the 9th session you might need 3 or 4 additional sessions to get completely dry.

3. There are too big intervals between sessions. Try doing them every day until you achieve the desired dryness. However if you won't achieve complete dryness in 12-14 days you might want to use higher voltage and adding a bit of salt in the water.

4. If you aren't reversing current after 10-15 minutes of treatment this might be a problem. Always reverse the current to get the same dryness on both hands.

5. If you are using plastic pans try replacing them with aluminium ones. I myself use shallow plates and I put alu foil over them. I don't know if this is completely safe since some people suggested that there might be other materials in alu foils so use it on your own judgement. Shanon recommends stainless steel plates in his vid. Give it a look.

6. Try different sources: for some two 9V batteries do the work, while they won't produce any result for others who need three 6V batteries. It seems counter intuitive that the same voltages would produce different results but this is how it works because our body pulls different amperages with each of them.

ShakingHands said:

Hey, a few questions for those who have been successful:

1. What containers did you use?
2. Would using a higher voltage be faster? Pain's not a big issue for me.
3. Is it better doing it at night or in the morning?
4. Any side effects? Mainly out of curiosity.
5. Any have information on how it really works? I have a vague idea but I'm quite interested now.

Cheers, I'll post when I've done it - will probably buy equipment this weekend.

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1. People who had most success used metal containers. Stainless steel is preferred IMO.

2. Yes, it seems that higher voltage produces quicker results. I wouldn't advise going over 28V though.

3. It doesn't matter. Some people do it once at morning and once before going to sleep. Personally I do it once a day whenever I find free time.

4. Yes, you might notice that your hands sweat a lot more during day 3,4 and 5 of the treatment. Aside from that you might need using some kind of hand moistening cremes because your hands will be really dry after successful treatment.

5. As far as I know noone really seems to have idea about how it works but there are some interesting hypotheses.

And please post, I'm really interested how soon will you see results.

PlaceboEffect said:

ShakingHands said:

Hey, a few questions for those who have been successful:

1. What containers did you use?
2. Would using a higher voltage be faster? Pain's not a big issue for me.
3. Is it better doing it at night or in the morning?
4. Any side effects? Mainly out of curiosity.
5. Any have information on how it really works? I have a vague idea but I'm quite interested now.

Cheers, I'll post when I've done it - will probably buy equipment this weekend.

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1. People who had most success used metal containers. Stainless steel is preferred IMO.

2. Yes, it seems that higher voltage produces quicker results. I wouldn't advise going over 28V though.

3. It doesn't matter. Some people do it once at morning and once before going to sleep. Personally I do it once a day whenever I find free time.

4. Yes, you might notice that your hands sweat a lot more during day 3,4 and 5 of the treatment. Aside from that you might need using some kind of hand moistening cremes because your hands will be really dry after successful treatment.

5. As far as I know noone really seems to have idea about how it works but there are some interesting hypotheses.

And please post, I'm really interested how soon will you see results.

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I'm probably gonna use aluminium pie pans with 18V, fingers crosssed it'll only take a week to see results. I'll definitely post results then.

Thanks for the info PlaceboEffect. I'll try out doing more treatments and see how that works. Just one question- are you dry (fingertips as well) when the weather is really hot and humid? I find that I'm bone dry in cool weather but when it passes 30 degrees the sweating just comes roaring back.

Shakinghands 18V should be enough if your water is "hard" enough. One way of knowing if the water isn't soft is if you'll feel a slight shock when you'll put your palms in the water. Also, you should feel a tingling feeling if the amperage your body is pulling out is high enough. If you'll experience these things then you will know that the conditions are right for the treatment to work.

hydroman123 said:

Thanks for the info PlaceboEffect. I'll try out doing more treatments and see how that works. Just one question- are you dry (fingertips as well) when the weather is really hot and humid? I find that I'm bone dry in cool weather but when it passes 30 degrees the sweating just comes roaring back.

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My palms are completely 100% dry in all situations. As a matter of fact I'm so dry that I feel how other peoples hands start sweating a bit when the temperature rises to around 35 degrees. It's really funny knowing that you are dry while people you've always been concerned if they'll notice your HH have wet hands.

What about compensatory sweating?

Like how when people get ETS they'll start sweating on their abdomen or legs to make up for lack of sweating on their hands and feet.

I definitely think the tradeoff would be worth it since it seems more normal to sweat in those areas than excessively on the hands and feet.

Think it would be a good way to know what kind of compensatory or gustatory sweating one would get if they really had to go through with ETS and wanted to know what kind of adverse side effects they'd get after the ETS.